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US says it has right to kidnap British citizens

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posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
Count me in, in the invasion force...



Don't forget your teapot, and see you at the dockside at Plymouth...

10 shillings will be paid for the scalp of that insurgent, Bush




posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:00 PM
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Thats ridiculous. Just because American law says they can kidnap other countries people, doesn't mean the other countries see it the same way.


But this gives me a great idea... if all other countries amend their laws to say they can execute American citizens without trial, then it becomes legal.
It can't be called terrorism if the law says they can do it.


... if that made you sick, imagine what Great Britain thinks of little USA right now.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Count me in, in the invasion force...



Don't forget your teapot, and see you at the dockside at Plymouth...

10 shillings will be paid for the scalp of that insurgent, Bush


excellent, I'll bring the clotted cream scones...


apc

posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:22 PM
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Citizens of other nations are really just imperial subjects that haven't been taxed yet.


I guess it's pretty lame if these reports are true. Although if the bounty hunters are private entities I don't see how the US is technically liable. If this is the work of a government agency, then yeah it's unfortunate that they are this sloppy.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by johnsky
... if that made you sick, imagine what Great Britain thinks of little USA right now.


...something like this?


Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Dubya,
if you think were on the run
We are the boys that will stop your little game
We are the boys who will make you think again.
'Cus who do you think you are kidding Mr. Dubya?If you think old England's done?

Mr. Brown goes off to town
On the 8:21.
But he comes home each evening
And he's ready with his gun.

So watch out Mr. Dubya
You have met your match in us.
If you think you can push us
We're afraid you've missed the bus.

so who do you think you are kidding Mr. Dubya?
If you think old England's done...





[edit on 2-12-2007 by citizen smith]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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I can see it now , Dog the Bounty Hunter climbing over garden fences to arrest the english on charges of terrorism for speaking out against president bush .




[edit on 2-12-2007 by Gun Totin Gerbil]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Gun Totin Gerbil
I can see it now , Dog the Bounty Hunter climbing over garden fences to arrest the english


And you'd expect us to take a man who has a 3-in-1 haircut seriously?


[edit on 2-12-2007 by citizen smith]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 01:40 PM
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Lol, i'd love to see dog the bounty hunter try it with any one of the locals in my pub...

He'd be picking up his teeth with broken fingers...

America might push other countries around, but they sure won't try it with us...

Call me old fashioned, but we don't bow to anyone... Whether that be a muslim fanatic or a Dictator President.

Yeah, c'mon Dog... bring it on



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:10 PM
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(to the tune of Colonel Bogey)

"Dubya - has only got one ball,
Condi - has two, but very small
Cheney - has got the same-y
And poor old Rumsfeld's got no balls at all..."




[edit on 2-12-2007 by citizen smith]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Extralien
Well if this is true and that's how the USA is gonna play it, I say we Brits invade America, kidnap Bush, take him back to UK and charge him with war crimes, corruption and any other illegal activities we can pin on him or fabricate.

*Snip*


Dude, you can have him on a couple of conditions. #1: You have to take Cheney too. #2: You have to promise that they can never come back to the U.S.... No "Indian Giving". and finally, #3: We reserve the right to send you up to 10 politicians each year for the next century (do what you want with 'em).

I think I'm being fair with only 10 a year, If I had my choice it'd be a lot more.


On topic: I don't think the reporter was using the term "kidnap" correctly. I'm sure there are "under-the-table" deals between our countries at the political level that allow for extradition, but they don't get publicity because they fall into the grey area of the law. The politicos are basically just trying to avoid having to go through 3 months of red tape, because in that amount of time the individual in question may either A) Relocate or B) Take action on whatever "terrorist" action he/she was planning.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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QUOTE: ''This is an outright abuse and violation of human rights. ''

You mean you've only just noticed this tendency by the current US admin.?

J.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
Lol, i'd love to see dog the bounty hunter try it with any one of the locals in my pub...

He'd be picking up his teeth with broken fingers...

America might push other countries around, but they sure won't try it with us...

Call me old fashioned, but we don't bow to anyone... Whether that be a muslim fanatic or a Dictator President.

Yeah, c'mon Dog... bring it on


Heheh...yeah, right. Trust me - the UK is out of it's league on this one. It, like most other countrys, does as it's told. When Bush says 'jump' - the UK asks 'how high?....and can I get you a nice cuppa tea while I'm at it dear??'



J.

[edit on 2-12-2007 by jimbo999]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:39 PM
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'Olde England' was 'done' shortly after WWII - and it never recovered. That's the simple truth.

J.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 02:43 PM
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QUOTE''Despite the extremes that both of our governments go to at times, i think we have to take a step back a moment and remember that the US and the UK are allies.''

Don't you mean US and the UK are Master and slave...? No-one outside of 10 Downing street or the local Connservative Club believes that 'ally' nonsense any more


J.

[edit on 2-12-2007 by jimbo999]



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 03:47 PM
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AMERICA has told Britain that it can “kidnap” British citizens...


Has 'told' Britain?

If the our bloody government had any pride left at all they would just 'tell' the USA to p*ss off!

oh and after that incident in Mexico I don't think 'Dog' the bounty hunter should be running about in foreign countries trying to muscle people around lol



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 04:27 PM
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Could someone please show a link that is not a UK site about this "information". Possibly on the Foreign policy site? I looked but didn't see it. If its true its appalling, but I would doubt it. I have worked in some sensitr areas and haven't heard about anything remotely about kidnapping allies civilians or military.

-Aza



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 04:30 PM
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Maybe the best thing for UK is to slowly reduce their alliance with USA and grow greater ties with europe over a period of time. Just as it is safer to reduce America's threat slowly via economics over time. You cannot make sudden impulsive moves, they are likely to do any manner of crazy things if felt under threat . No, they need to be leashed, muzzled and declawed safely . It is not a safe animal to deal with .



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 10:16 PM
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The word" Goverment" simply put, means little better than the word organised crime....
There is NO freedom in England or Amerika,Or any other "Governed "country
What the goverment wants it taks by law, but the force of its arms are the bottom line as to the law.(Witness the forced vaccinations in the east....)
Witness the highest concentration of survielance cameras in the world(England)
There is no freedom, there never was...Its an illusion used to suck you into buying their bullshanty.....
The Gov Boys (CIA,NSA,MI5,MI6,FBI,RCMP,all specialise in enforcing the Goverment will upon the people.)
Theres tons more too...from the health board to the city hall.
All will escalate to violence when one person resists their will.
The problem is we do not even understand what freedom means, and what it costs....so we abrogate it to others who have convinced us we still have it....................
bergle



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 10:29 PM
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The Gov Boys (CIA,NSA,MI5,MI6,FBI,RCMP,all specialise in enforcing the Goverment will upon the people.)


Hey, woah, CSIS yes, RCMP no way... those guys live by one motto, serve and protect... it would be nice if all police around the world actually took that motto seriously.



posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 10:46 PM
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Yes, they can indeed kidnap british citizens, however it doesn't mean it's part of the law that they can do so (unless someone wants to provide a quote).

This reminds me of a certain urban legend we have over here about these two kids who managed to hack into the pentagon servers, and how there were CIA people knocking on their house the very next day.

Disregarding that though, it seems clear that Bush views Britain as if it were some sort of 51st state, although infact it is indeed the case that the United Kingdom has come under scruitiny for the 'honour' of whether or not it can be considered being America's latest political conquest.

I believe that the American establishment has a tendency to treat it's allies as one would treat a subordinate, and perhaps can no longer see the difference.

Damn You George, Damn you.



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