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Need help with a vague reference in a self prophecy

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posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 03:42 AM
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A bit of history. I have first hand seen my mother predicted future events with great detail months before they happened. As little as I believe in the supernatural, precognition or foresight I highly believe in, but this has nothing to do with my mother.

Since she has done it in the past, I myself have wondered if it may be genetic and that I may be able to do it to. I am not sure how it works for her, but I may have predicted minor things before, but I am uncertain. When it occurs, when I think it happened before, I for some reason have something in my memories that was not there before, this sometimes happens when I dream.

Most of the time I don't pay attentiont to this, but latley I have a really wierd one stuck in my head. I am asking if anyone as any idea what it may be referencing if in fact it is some sort of perdiction.

The thing stuck in my head is, "Time travel will be revealed by a mouse and a fly."

Things I note;
1. It doesn't say to who this happens.
2. It doesn't say where.
3. It doesn't say when.
4. Obviously I don't think a mouse or a a fly could tell some one how to time travel, so I think it may be a metaphor of some kind.

This is what I am stuck on, does anyone have any idea what this could be a metaphor of, or anything this could be referencing?

If something comes to mind please let me know.

No spaming or trolling please.
I am serious about this and dought that it really is something, but you never know. I just want to double check.




posted on Dec, 2 2007 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by halfmask


4. Obviously I don't think a mouse or a a fly could tell some one how to time travel, so I think it may be a metaphor of some kind.

This is what I am stuck on, does anyone have any idea what this could be a metaphor of, or anything this could be referencing?

If something comes to mind please let me know



your the only one who can translate your inner dialogue 'language'
the mouse + fly may be symbols or metaphors like you think,


recall that Einstein reported that his internal language was like pictures
...
now that internal language is many layers, some of it is used for behavior and having a conscience, then some is used for projecting likely outcomes
of the choices you have at hand (should i go left or right at this intersection)
another layer is what one might call the Collective Conscious, even the
so called Morphic Resonance (both of these considered 'fringe' ideas),
and in that sphere, my language which i personally understand,
is in the form of a narrative...

a story will tell itself (unfold) to my intellect
but when the story goes beyond my experiences or factoids in my
memory
---then the narrative comes to a halt, it stores itself in a
compartment/folder in my brain--- until such time that growth or knowledge or experience allows the narrative to continue in a
seemingly uninterrupted flow (even if the story stopped a year or more
earlier).




it could be that these critters & insects are an unusual tandem,
or lifeforms with different biological clocks & metabolisms
or they could be 'the clutter' of your present view of time...


it's for you to meditate on
and eventually unravel
peace

[edit on 2-12-2007 by St Udio]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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Hi Halfmask,

I have a lot of experience with interpreting dreams and visions, with a dash of intuition, so I'll help you out with this one.


Originally posted by halfmask
The thing stuck in my head is, "Time travel will be revealed by a mouse and a fly."

Things I note;
1. It doesn't say to who this happens.
2. It doesn't say where.
3. It doesn't say when.
4. Obviously I don't think a mouse or a a fly could tell some one how to time travel, so I think it may be a metaphor of some kind.

This is what I am stuck on, does anyone have any idea what this could be a metaphor of, or anything this could be referencing?

If something comes to mind please let me know.

First off, this is a future event.

Secondly, the mouse and fly are symbolic references to degrees of insignificance.

Of the two, the fly is considered more intuitive and less grounded (flighty) and therefore even less significant, but is actually the greater of the two in orchestrating time travel.

In simple and direct terms:

Time travel will not be achieved through traditional electronic means in some lab with a large budget and an abundance of high-tech equipment.

It will be done by two people, two mystics (a "mouse and a fly" to the scientific establishment), who are not supported by the academia, who do not hold advanced degrees in physics and/or technology, and who are not the benefactors of a large fund to conduct their experiments.


That was a relatively easy one.


The Radiance of Gratitude is given to my Guides for assisting me in this interpretation.



[edit on 3-12-2007 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 07:40 PM
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I am agree that it is so probable that finally the last frontier that the man has, the only one that is still intact as a barrier that we cannot cross easily, the one of time can be finally surpassed, in my opinion, together with a better understanding of the mysteries of the Mind.
For the one that has some deep knowledge in Parapsicology it is clear that one of the axioms of that Science, even expressed since ancient times in the Kybalion, an egiptian book that register the teachings of the Great Hermes trismegisto, is that everything is Mind in the World.
To understand this let me compare this with the concept of Model, taken from Mathematics, almost everthing can be represented and perfectly simulated through a good mathematical model. If we accept this from the mathematics it is not difficult to understand that there is an intelligent design behind any fact of the reality, in other words that we can find the way to find the model or archetype that is behind it. If there is a mathematical model on which is based an object we can suppose that the being is preexisting in some sense in the world of the ideas or thoughts indepently of its presence in the material world.
I am researching from long time ago in this matter and my theory is that even the time, that is nothing distindt than the mathematical representation of the change, can be modeled in a way to understand how it flows, what is its mechanic.
The Works of Einstein in the Relativity theory are a good point to begin that search. It is proved, even with some experimental proofs in laboratory, that the time tends to enlarge at the light speed or so near to it. That is interesting since there is a suggestion that we can travel not only through the space but also through the time at that velocity, for that reason Einstein created the concept of Space-time.
The twins paradox in a a good example of this: two brothers that are twins, one stay on earth living his normal life while the other is send to space in a spacecraft that travel at the light speed, according with Einstein that one is going to experiment the advance of the time slower than the other and when he return to the earth, after his trip he must found this twin to old in comparision of him, that remain young.
Some experiments with clocks carried in supersonic airplanes have shown that in fact the clocks run slower at that velocity, that is really slow in comparision with the light one.
Returning to your question, I can tell you that the mind is energy, I cannot tell you exactly what type, since it is totally different than all the other types that we know. In experiences of astral body trip, I have experience the possibility to go to very far places only with my mind, and the trip occurs instantly after I enter to so called alpha level of thinking, so I think the mind can travel at the speed light or near to it. This is relevant with respect to your inquiry since I am also a very reliable predictor of events, and that means that I can "see" what is going to happen in advance, that in my opinion is in fact the ability to travel mentally in the time.
If it is possible to go to the future, at the mind level, to watch incoming events it must be possible to reverse the process and go to the past too.
If you want to know more about me I suggest to look my threads at the chitchat forum of dreams & Personal predictions.
There is another point in common with your case: My mother and my grandmother also had the same natural gift than me.
I am totally convinced that the man will travel through the time but not physically but mentally. If the humanity can advance one more step bejond the so materialistic ideosincracy of our epoch I think we can reach that goal.
thanks,
Your friend,
The Angel of lightness

[edit on 12/3/2007 by The angel of light]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 08:12 PM
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On the issue of time travel...

Einsteinian physics dictates that in order to make time stand still, one has to travel at the speed of light. But it also states that it is impossible for a physical object to even approach the speed of light, much less go beyond it in order to manifest time travel.

Which means that time travel cannot be done through physical means


It can only be accomplished through spiritual means in the higher dimensions where the speed of light can not only be achieved but also overcome.


Secondly, one cannot time travel into a future that does not yet exist.


Third, time travel into the past can ONLY be done into ALTERNATE or PARALLEL TIMELINES to this one.

In other words, our past cannot be changed ONE IOTA.

But it is possible, through spiritual means, to travel into PARALLEL TIMELINES in the past.

All of the above was derived through intuition and extensive analysis.

So in accordance to the prophecy stated in the OP, it makes sense that the time barrier will not be broken by astronauts, engineers, or scientists. Instead, it will be achieved by future Ascended Masters - "a mouse and a fly" - who will utilize The Light in order to make it happen.



[edit on 3-12-2007 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 08:45 PM
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i read the 1st three posts,

time traveling will not be found out any time soon. that itself is a metaphore. the fly and mouse might... or might not be a metaphore

time traveling= You finding something about your past, someone else finding out something else, OR you "travel back" and find out about this "memory"

mouse= something we do not think of a lot but does us huge favors (and not so good things)

fly= the whole thing, puts it all together (can "fly" back in time)



posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 02:33 AM
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wow
Thanks for the replies everyone.

St Udio:
Your insight on the minds owns language is a great point. I have always wondered if everyone things in a common thought code or their own.

Paul_Richard:
I think you may have broken it down well; I would have never
looked at it like that.

The angel of light:
I agree completely that everything is run by math. I have believed that for a while now.

Biggiceland:
I think it may be possible that this is about the past, but in the image in my mind the clock is most defiantly moving forward, this really points out to me that this is something that is yet to happen.

Note that I am a big fan of Einstein, I know lots about his theories, and I read up on them all the time.
Thanks everyone for the great replies. I still don’t understand why this was moved to the BTS pages, but whatever. It will move back if this does come true, if it doesn’t then aw well. I guess we will just have to wait and see. It took months for my mother’s predictions to come true, I wonder if I can expect a similar time frame.



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