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Alien Base Photographed By Japanese Moon Probe?!

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posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Amazing! but correct me if I am wrong here... Mike did not create this video, merely brought it to our attention... shoot the messenger why don't you?


If you had read the thread ( someone usually does ) you would have seen my answer about just that that ..


LOL Well mike seems you fan club is wanning and the debunkers have latched on to your coat tails now...


I didnt know this forum was all about fans and followers like a cult. But hey .. I cant know everything ..

Btw: "LOL" is so 2001. Get over it.. Write like an adult.
Someone stated in a post further up "This is probably due to their lack of a proper education starting at the primary level on basic etiquette and politeness." It seems that some of you missed the whole education thing all together. Not only the proper education starting at the primary level on basic etiquette and politeness, but also the ability to separate fantasy from reality.

By hiding behind "LOLz, ur n0t l33tzor atszor rofl" acronyms just makes my points more obvious ..


Welcome to the club
(or was that 'cult'
)
And a note to those who think those videos from Kayuga/Selene are the greatest things since sliced bread...

Your kidding right?


Whas this comment for me, or for mikesingh?
Maybe you simply are implying that ATS is the place to post nutjobs and hoaxes?




posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

What? You expect skeptics to actually READ a post before bashing? Where is the 'sport' in that? Why if they did that they might actually realize what fools they are making of themselves...




I rest my case.

As I stated in my previous post, you haven't read the thread. So why make up assumptions that we who HAS read it hasn't ?

Why shoot the messenger? mikesingh acts more like a follower than a messenger. mikesingh has no diplomatic immunity when it comes to posting hoaxers and liars. If mikesingh did just a little bit of research before posting, he would probably come to the conclusion that the video is for nutjobs. Unless he has a "lack of a proper education starting at the primary level", as he so well put it himself.



TROLL...
Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the singular intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.


Ah, so you agree that this is a waste of time post? Thanks..
In this case, a post so far fetched, it makes ATS points on the critics and daydreamers


I guess if THAT is the definition then we better ban EVERYONE on ATS for trolling, because I find very few threads here that are not controversial or cause argumentative response.


Ok, so you agree to the fact that many posts are not controversial or cause argumentative response. Then why is it wrong to criticize them from posting hoaxes/lies?
Why can't I whom is on the reality side criticize the ones who states fantasy as facts?
And why can't I criticize mikesingh for posting rubbish?



And you know when you look at Mike's picture... well....



He never did tell me who the blonde was



[edit on 2-12-2007 by zorgon]


And what is up with all the ridiculing of the whole thing? It may be fun for a 3 year old to see a picture of a troll. But if you want to have a sincere argument, stop hiding behind jokes and stay on topic.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:23 AM
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Hey angelc01!

You might not know it, but we have some counter term for debunkers ..

You can look it up on the internet and use the words:

1. Hoax
en.wikipedia.org...

A hoax is an attempt to trick an audience into believing that something false is real. There is often some material object (e.g., snake oil) involved which is actually a forgery; however, it is possible to perpetrate a hoax by making only true statements using unfamiliar wording or context (see DHMO). Unlike a fraud or con (which is usually aimed at a single victim and are made for illicit financial or material gain), a hoax is often perpetrated as a practical joke, to cause embarrassment, or to provoke social change by making people aware of something.


2. Science fiction
en.wikipedia.org...

Science fiction (abbreviated SF or sci-fi with varying punctuation and case) is a broad genre of fiction that often involves speculations based on current or future science or technology. Science fiction is found in books, art, television, films, games, theater, and other media.


3. Liars
en.wikipedia.org...

A lie is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement with the intention to deceive, often with the further intention to maintain a secret or reputation, or to avoid punishment. To lie is to state something one believes is false with the intention that it be taken for the truth by someone else. A liar is a person who is lying, who has lied, or who lies repeatedly.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:28 AM
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tep200377



I find it fascinating to find you here...

I was eventually going to think of that, Zorgon!

You are outtta control, leave this poor troll alone before he reports us all for comin in here back to back Matrix-style to get this little matter resolved!

MikeSingh has contributed so much to this thread it's insane, and you've only brought noise, which is what you undoubtedly set out to do in the first place, I suspect. At first I had intended to debate points with you until I read what you had posted, pointless dribble. Your entire refuting position was one of objective disagreement, blaring out like an over-miked out-of-tune trumpet with the monitors turned up too loud, meter solid red, was my overall sensation after having ingested your replies. I will debate points, but so-and-so is the biggest troll on the forum is not for me to decide for you. And if you've decided that is the case, shutting the door behind you would be my only real recommendation.

Now, if you are sticking around, great, I can try it again:




Originally posted by OptionToChoose

And where does mike_b state that you personally attached the person behind the alias "mikesingh"? Why are you trying to hide behind semanitcs? mike_b didn't say you attac . . I'm assuming you meant "attacked" with a "k" . . attacked the person behind the alias. He said you attacked mikesingh, and he did not break it down to any specific degree.







posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:41 AM
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I really don't care how many points or how many nutjob posts he has written. It really doesn't matter how many children who thinks this is cool.

And for your question, I have answered .. If you read the post I make, you would have seen it. This just points out that YOU are the one that doesn't read the posts ..

What does "Personal attacks" mean to you ?

I'm sticking around!





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[edit on 3-12-2007 by tep200377]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:51 AM
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I really don't know what you are referring to when it comes to "semantics".

Is this the answer you're talking about? That's not the answer to the question. I just re-read your entire reply. That's in "again". You didn't answer my question, yet you claim what would really be my forum-incompetence and lack of intellectual decorum IMO by not having read your post. Trollism. So, since you're sticking around, and not to debate but bicker . . . let's see, now where did they put that Ignore button? . . ahh, there it is!



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by OptionToChoose
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I really don't know what you are referring to when it comes to "semantics".

Is this the answer you're talking about? That's not the answer to the question. I just re-read your entire reply. That's in "again". You didn't answer my question, yet you claim what would really be my forum-incompetence and lack of intellectual decorum IMO by not having read your post. Trollism. So, since you're sticking around, and not to debate but bicker . . . let's see, now where did they put that Ignore button? . . ahh, there it is!


[level with="OptionToChoose"]
Woohoo .. I won!
[/level]




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[edit on 3-12-2007 by tep200377]



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by OptionToChoose
reply to post by tep200377
 




I really don't know what you are referring to when it comes to "semantics".

Is this the answer you're talking about? That's not the answer to the question. I just re-read your entire reply. That's in "again". You didn't answer my question, yet you claim what would really be my forum-incompetence and lack of intellectual decorum IMO by not having read your post. Trollism. So, since you're sticking around, and not to debate but bicker . . . let's see, now where did they put that Ignore button? . . ahh, there it is!


When it comes to answering, I have posted answers for all your questions and yet YOU have not answered a single question from me. And there are MANY questions from me.

If you like to look at yourself as a good debater, you really should answer MY questions to. Maybe that would increase your forum-incompetence and lack of intellectual decorum.

Could you give me one or maybe two examples where i bicker and not debate?

A, thats right, you don't have any answers to my questions, so you pretend to ignore me instead. Well, thats the worst kind of debaters you will find on the internet.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:48 AM
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Ok. I thought I was being a trifle rude so I'm deleting this post! Doesn't hurt to be a gentleman, what?


Cheers!


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posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:56 AM
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Is it that time of the day already? For my daily "Please Behave" post?

I would hope that some posters in this thread would by now know how to avoid baiting and sniping. But alas some people need some reminding:

Focus on the topic at hand, and not your fellow member. No more off-topic raving or personal attacks of any kind.

Baiting and Sniping on ATS – Please Review Link.
General ATS Discussion Etiquette – Please Review This Link.
The Digital Ego – Please Review This Link.
...

Read those, and you'll have more than enough reason to act like adults. Or at least try.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 05:02 AM
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Hehe, agree
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posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by tep200377
If you ask me, and this is my serious opinion, mikesingh is the biggest troller on this forum.

Well, mikesingh .. you have just lost all my respect..


That is where you clearly stated that it was your OPINION and that the issue was serious enough I guess to merit your opinion that no one asked for.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:16 PM
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If this crap is the best images they (the japanese not the original poster) can provide then I'm really disappointed. Are there any hi-res galleries or is it all jpeg compressed BS!!!!????

-Euclid



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posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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I always enjoy Mikes threads. They're very interesting and usually come with spectacular images and pictures, very thought provoking.

This thread as been spoiled Imo and I'm leaving with a bad taste in my mouth.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by euclid
If this crap is the best images they can provide then I'm really disappointed. Are there any hi-res galleries or is it all jpeg compressed BS!!!!????
-Euclid


Selene does not have regular cameras to take pictures... only HDTV and so far they have not exactly shown their best...



We already have a thread following the Selene releases so I will leave it for that... but if you want to seriously find something wrong... watch the Earth Rise video closely and see if you can spot the obvious faults in the video


(Too bad they removed the high res version from their website... and the saved copy won't show images when played.... first time I ran into that one
)



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posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Selene does not have regular cameras to take pictures... only HDTV and so far they have not exactly shown their best...
They have, is called the Terrain Camera (TC) and that is how they make photos like the ones on this page.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 08:29 PM
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Moved response to Kayuga thread...



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by zorgon
Selene does not have regular cameras to take pictures... only HDTV and so far they have not exactly shown their best...
They have, is called the Terrain Camera (TC) and that is how they make photos like the ones on this page.


I saw that... if that is all they have then like I said I'm disappointed...... it's such low resolution I can't do any analysis on it.

If that's the best they can do - then they suck, their tech sucks and if they are holding back they suck even more than I can put into words.

-Euclid



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by euclid
If that's the best they can do - then they suck, their tech sucks and if they are holding back they suck even more than I can put into words.

-Euclid


They're Japanese, right? What did you expect?


Darn! This is a one line post. Gonna get screwed for it! Can't write more about the Japanese, right? Nothing to show but watches!!


OK, that was all a joke. No offense intended to any Japanese friends on ATS!

Cheers!



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 08:13 AM
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What do you mean by low resolution, are you talking about the 10 metres per pixel ground resolution or about the size of the photo?



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