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Originally posted by jedimiller
I would give him 3 years in prision to shape up!
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
At least when the protestors chanted "USA!" I laughed out loud.
Originally posted by Damocles
if you feel your lifes in danger (you are afterall pointing a loaded weapon at another human so you must feel theres an immediate danger to your life yeah?) are you going to risk a hollywood bs shot or are you going to go for the part of the body that gives you the best overall chances of coming out of this alive?
Originally posted by sigung86
Originally posted by samuraijack
Frontier ... is why.........in my opinion we wait for the proper authorities that have been trained to respond accordingly. If our authorities are'nt responding fast enough then that's when we speak up and complain about them not doing their jobs.
Good God! What was all that... And in one paragraph?
Here is a typical misinterpretation of reality. Sorry, but come on folks...
The Police man is not your friend. His duty is not to respond in time to keep you from having to make a moral ethical, self-determination. The Police are there to control crime, period. Unfortunately, that happens after the fact, more often than not. When we speak up about them not doing their job? They are, doing their jobs.
I get that for you it is more reasonable for someone else to have to get their hands dirty and do your work for you.
If you want the Television version of the police, you need to live somewhere where there is at least one policeman, armed and uniformed, living on every block in every area where people reside, 24 hours a day.
It is also up to you to defend yourself if you are threatened. Fortunately, recently, more states (not just Texas) are starting to wise up to the self defense rights of people who own homes, property and perhaps have loved ones they don’t want to depend on Mr. Police Officer to defend... And just so happen to not be afraid to do what is necessary to keep the criminal element in check. The extent of the victim mentality just, on occasion, makes me shake my head.
For you, I would reiterate Thomas Jefferson, whom I believe said, approximately, "Those who are willing to give up their individual freedoms for protection, deserve neither.
* How are they getting paid? If we are responsible for their salary then let them do their jobs. The proper authorities are trained accordingly to deal with the risk and legal issues,so let them get their hands dirty. Or else the money will be wasted.
*I have no problem with self-defense. If you noticed as you stated Jefferson uses the term individual meaning oneself or ones family. Does this mean I can kill who I want because I fear the unknown or based on what I perceive as a threat anywhere at anytime? That would'nt be my individual protection, According to what Thomas Jefferson wrote I would be wrong if individual have the meaning I think it does. In Horns case, because of his vigilantism he may have to face a member of one of the burgulars family or possibly someone else the burgular know personally in the future, This is one reason vigilantism should not take place.
[edit on 2-12-2007 by sigung86]