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Originally posted by TheRedneck
And, as you pointed out MH, the factories that provide literal clouds of pollution are going unfettered, while my personal use of a vehicle is questioned.
I think that's evidence enough for me that we don't have the whole story...
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by The Good Reverend Roger
2 is a partial number... nice move, take an example and extrapolate a totality from it alone. Duh... I have three dogs. Therefore, there are only three dogs left on the planet and they are an endangered species.
"SAVE OUR DOGS FROM EXTINCTION!"
TheRedneck
What produces more pollution? A factory with scrubbers, or the 10 year old cars that the employees drive to work there?
Originally posted by TheRedneck
C'mon Reverend, you can do better than this...
Originally posted by owzitgarn
Considering he's a doctor lecturing on energy management I think he knows what he's talking about
Originally posted by Maverickhunter
reply to post by scientist
Even if it's not man made then we are certainly helping it move really quickly. Man made emissions are a contributor to the problem of the growing environment.
Originally posted by GT100FV
I don't understand the way the question was posed- "why do people conspire that global warming is fake?" doesn't make sense, worded that way. You might ask, "why do people say/believe/assert that global warming is fake?"
Of course the response would be that there is no scientific consensus that shows mans involvement in the Earth's temperature fluctuations.
The scientific consensus is clearly expressed in the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Created in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organization and the United Nations Environmental Programme, IPCC's purpose is to evaluate the state of climate science as a basis for informed policy action, primarily on the basis of peer-reviewed and published scientific literature (3). In its most recent assessment, IPCC states unequivocally that the consensus of scientific opinion is that Earth's climate is being affected by human activities: "Human activities ... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents ... that absorb or scatter radiant energy. ... [M]ost of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations" [p. 21 in (4)].
Originally posted by The Good Reverend Roger
reply to post by scientist
Link to solar flares being capable of heating up the planet?
Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by Maverickhunter
Even if it's not man made then we are certainly helping it move really quickly. Man made emissions are a contributor to the problem of the growing environment.
Originally posted by scientist
Originally posted by The Good Reverend Roger
reply to post by scientist
Link to solar flares being capable of heating up the planet?
Thanks in advance.
I only said there have been studies showing that a raise in the frequency of solar flares correlating to higher temperatures.
Instead of a direct link, try a google search for "solar flares global warming" or "solar constant."
basically, these global warming studies are assuming that the sun's temperature (which is the ONLY source of warmth, remember) is constant. It's not.
Here is a log of significant solar flares in the recent years:
www.spacew.com...
[edit on 1-12-2007 by scientist]
Originally posted by Animal
You actually are wrong here mate.... dismissal of the theory of increased solar radiation being the predominate force in global warming.
So all those baghouses and scrubbers that my mechanics and I&E people have to fix and maintain do nothing?
I figured that 30 1998 cars would probably put out just a little more pollution than, say, 50PPM of HCl in a given day.
Originally posted by The Good Reverend Roger
Originally posted by TheRedneck
C'mon Reverend, you can do better than this...
Whoops. Appeal to ridicule.
Been nice talking to you, Sport.
Then perhaps you can provide a better example?
I mean, if you're going to make a statement about what a "large number" of climatologists (as opposed to a few tame ones owned body and soul by Exxon), you might consider having your facts at your fingertips.