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"Saddam's spy" is mostly responsible for the "successful" Troop Surge

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posted on Nov, 30 2007 @ 06:24 PM
After all of the months of reports hammering the notion of the troop Surge is responsible for the calming of the violence in iraq, it turns out that it was Iraqi spies tired of the BS.

An enigmatic military intelligence officer from the old Iraqi Army is leading a revolt that has reduced the bloodshed in Baghdad

Amariyah has experienced a startling rebirth since that western-style shootout. In May its streets were filled with corpses being picked over by stray dogs. American troops ventured in rarely. When they did, they used heavily armoured vehicles, several of which were blown apart by mines.

Now the shops and cafés are open, and schoolchildren and women stroll the streets. Mr al-Obeidi’s men patrol on foot with American troops and Iraqi soldiers.

It has been a precarious journey from al-Qaeda fiefdom to what US commanders see as a possible model for the future of Iraq. The process has not been made clearer by the mystique surrounding the enigmatic man at the centre of the revolt.

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Meanwhile, Iran has apparently been helping to curb the violence and weapons trafficking on the end:

US general says Iran helping stop Iraq bloodshed
BAGHDAD (AFP) — A US general on Wednesday acknowledged Iran's role in helping quell the bloodshed in Iraq, saying Tehran had contributed to stopping the flow of arms across the border into the country.
Lieutenant General James Dubik, who is in charge of training Iraqi security forces, said Tehran was keeping to its pledge of stopping the smuggling of weapons to Iraqi extremists.

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Troops Find Iraq Torture House; Iran Helping Stem Weapons Flow
Brig. Gen. James Boozer said forces found execution equipment and chains in the house in the Diyala River Valley, an Al Qaeda stronghold north of Baghdad, as he touted progress in bolstering Iraqi security forces and said Iran seems to be holding to a commitment to thwart the flow of weapons into Iraq.

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Al Qaeda who?!:

Foreign Fighters in Iraq Are Tied to Allies of U.S.
BAGHDAD — Saudi Arabia and Libya, both considered allies by the United States in its fight against terrorism, were the source of about 60 percent of the foreign fighters who came to Iraq in the past year to serve as suicide bombers or to facilitate other attacks, according to senior American military officials.
The data come largely from a trove of documents and computers discovered in September, when American forces raided a tent camp in the desert near Sinjar, close to the Syrian border. The raid's target was an insurgent cell believed to be responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq.

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But the anti-Iran propaganda continues:

As violence continues to drop and hundreds of Iraqis return home each day, a result of extinguishing the influence of Al Qaeda, many eyes are focusing on the negative impact of Iran's involvement in Iraq.
With Al Qaeda's violence waning, Iran's meddling is increasingly sky-lined against Iraq's reformation.

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In the GOP debate Wed. Ron Paul stated that much of the 'success' was a result of the British pulling out in the south and the Iraqi's taking charge of their own turf. Anybody have any good snippet liks on that??

[edit on 30-11-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

posted on Nov, 30 2007 @ 07:02 PM
Here I uploaded the Ron Paul Troop-Surge-debunking clip I was talking about:

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 01:45 AM
Because we all know that the troop surge was only about sending in em and and smashing the insurgancy with boots....

The US for the last few years have been trying to help the Iraqis take control of their own land. The US more than welcomes Iraqis to step up and help themselves by taking as stand against the insurgancy.

The facts are out and the troops surge did help calm Iraq. As time gose on and more Iraqis understand that they can step up to the plate and help out also I hope they do so. It's all a part of winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people and them understanding that we will provide support. Like the artical said, "Mr al-Obeidi’s men patrol on foot with American troops and Iraqi soldiers."

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 01:58 AM
Alright, I'm making book on this.

Who here wants to bet that we DON'T learn from our mistakes and we will start this new Iraq off on the wrong foot by throwing our hand in with either this guy or another warlord?

I really really wonder if this guy is a 'made man' so to speak. Could be a very easy way to manipulate and gain the loyalty of Iraqis.

Good lord, what is my government up to over there?

[edit on 12-6-2007 by Loki]

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 04:51 AM
throw this item into the mix about the recent decrease of violence
(lastest reports are incidents are 60% lower)

the coincidence that some of the 'security sub-contractors' have been
expelled from Iraq ?? Blackwater ~in particular~, and others,

the 'surge' is an empty shell, redirecting / modifying the troops mission
is one key, the other key is the Iraqi self styled militas...
~~ along with the Mahdi Army's temporary cease-fire ~~ !!

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