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reply posted on 13-12-2007 @ 07:35 AM by Harlequin
*sigh* i`ll just go back to reading properly

nearly up to 10% now



reply posted on 13-12-2007 @ 01:33 PM by Canada_EH
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Well on the subject of back lash on the fighter from international buyers this may be a sign. The Suadis have moved forward with the looking for a Sniper ATP Supplementation for F-15S.

On Dec 7/07 the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced [PDF] Saudi Arabia's request for 40 of Lockheed Martin's AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER Advanced Targeting Pods, which would replace the older LANTIRN twin-pod systems installed on Saudi F-15S Strike Eagles


www.defenseindustrydaily.com...


reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 05:16 PM by Harlequin
www.washingtonpost.com...

Structural Flaws May Ground Older F-15s Indefinitely

Air Force inspectors have discovered major structural flaws in eight older-model F-15 fighters, sparking a new round of examinations that could ground all of the older jets into January or beyond, senior Air Force and defense officials said


uh-oh

interesting discussion in that article -

Some outside analysts have said that the F-15 problems can be fixed and that the extra F-22s are unnecessary. "I don't suspect that the Air Force is lying when it says it has discovered stress fractures in the longerons of the F-15s," said Winslow Wheeler, an expert at the Center for Defense Information and a longtime opponent of purchasing additional F-22s. "But there's no big deal about that. Fix it."



where is this going?


reply posted on 4-1-2008 @ 08:03 AM by Canada_EH
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Well we got more info on who is covering what airspace. And as I said before it looks like the Canadians at the very least are stepping in over Alaska along side the 22's.

created by the F-15 A-D grounding. With the F-15s in Massachusetts out of commission, the Vermont Air National Guard (ANG) is covering the whole Northeast. The Oregon ANG's fighters are grounded, so the California Air National Guard is standing watch for the entire West Coast plus slices of Arizona and Nevada. To meet that need, the Fresno, CA based 144th Fighter Wing has had to borrow F-16s from bases in Indiana and Arizona and trim back training.

The Minnesota ANG is manning sites in Hawaii, while the Illinois ANG covers Louisiana. In Alaska, the new F-22 Raptors are stepping in – and so are Canadian CF-18s, which have intercepted several Russian bombers near Alaska in recent weeks.

www.defenseindustrydaily.com...



reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 07:39 AM by Canada_EH
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The possible wide spread publication that the early 15s can only do 3 quarters or half of what they were designed to do isn't good for Boeing, USAF or ANG. The likely hood that there is more restrictions on the flight enevelope etc is quite high. But with a number like 40% that would need rebuild the standards are high for longerons and if there is restrictions I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be much more then is already in place.


reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 09:48 PM by Canada_EH


reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:48 AM by Harlequin
www.defense-aerospace.com...

a bit more alarmist this one (same info as above) the reporting *suggests* that the 40% with shoddy parts may never fly again lockheed used substandard parts to make more money

While 260 US Air Force F-15A to –D fighters have returned to flight, over 40% of the fleet have faulty parts and may not fly again.


www.military.com...

More troubling, however, were the findings of a parallel examination that determined as many as 163 of the workhorse F-15s also have the flawed beams, called longerons. The aircraft remain grounded as the Air Force tries to determine how broad the problem is and whether fixes should be made. Another 19 of the aircraft have yet to be inspected and also remain grounded.


theres your 40% - 163 aircraft with faulty longerons - and as all the articles say - it will cost $250,000 per aircraft to fix 1 problem - and how long till other parts go bad on these 25 year old aircraft (thats 40 million dollars to fix the problem caused by lockmart)


makes you wonder what corners are being made on the F35 to make more money - since the US are allready said they won`t be buying as many as first thought and lockmart have allready used there `contingency` fund after cocking it all up so far.

[edit on 13/1/08 by Harlequin]


reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:53 AM by Harlequin



boeing video of the breakup of the 02/11/07 accident based upon flight data.


reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 08:49 AM by Canada_EH


This next more basic CG video puts the break up into context and the aggressive ACM that where taking place.

On 2 November, 2007, a Missouri Air National Guard Boeing F-15C had just entered a mock dogfight when the pilot felt something was wrong with his aircraft. Seconds later, the Eagle broke in two and the pilot ejected from a tumbling cockpit.

Using HUD camera recordings and other data, the US Air Force has reconstructed the circumstances surrounding the accident, which occurred during routine basic fighter manoeuvre (BFM) training involving four F-15s.

The mishap aircraft, serial number 80-0034 and call sign Mick 2




reply posted on 2-2-2008 @ 12:13 PM by Harlequin
www.foxnews.com...

HONOLULU — A fighter jet among a troubled fleet of F-15s that recently returned to the skies plunged into the ocean Friday, but the pilot ejected in time and was rescued shortly afterward.




holy s**t


if its found to be structural failure - the F15 is doomed.
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