Originally posted by Drzava
FIRST, IS THERE any proof that we are all connected together?

Well we all come from the same lifeforms that were born or landed on Earth

If you go looking on the internet you will find that people say everyone is One. We are all part of one super-conscious, but experience ourselves at individuals because we have consciousness/souls different from other people.



The conscious, subconscious, and collective unconsciousness.

Originally posted by dionysius9


I think the world is on a threshold. Each human acts like an individual brain cell - a component of a larger mind. A billion more people and the collective IQ of humanity will reach the point that we as a whole will realize that there is nothing to be gained from warfare that you don't lose many times over compared to working together.

well if there was any validity to this, you would think those that profit from war would be threatened by rising populations would u not?

And like any succesful group and or "business" trying to protect their profits they would come out with a strong strategic plan to counter these threats and in ways that would make these counter strategy's hidden from public view or somehow turn them around as helpless tradgedy's (Aids, other diseases, etc ?)

I mean i would venture to guess some business/groups (If there "lives" depended) on it would somehow rationalize it to themselves that the ends (deaths of third worlder's and those that are not the "fittest" justify the means (which is their leadership ....in overseeing the general population to ensure some structure and stability to society (which in their warped logic is worth more lives i.e their leadership saves more lives, than the collateral effects of which kill

combine this with a beleif that 95 percent need to be told what to believe (by the 5%) this would give them the rationale to stretch and bend the truth, (reported thru various media) wether they believe you couldn't handle it, and/ or in order to keep a self perpetuating system going strong.

just brainstorming aloud

[edit on 1-12-2007 by cpdaman]

Originally posted by cpdaman

well if there was any validity to this, you would think those that profit from war would be threatened by rising populations would u not?

I think this was recognized possibly thousands of years ago, and the birth of the different religions where born, to keep the indivIdual MInd closed of, thuS Separating vast nUmbers of people from the collective mind.

And like any succesful group and or "business" trying to protect their profits they would come out with a strong strategic plan to counter these threats and in ways that would make these counter strategy's hidden from public view or somehow turn them around as helpless tradgedy's (Aids, other diseases, etc ?)

I also think that the separations of race also play a role in keeping us separated. Just look at the divisions between humans based of both religion and race. No matter what color we are or what language we speak we are all human, until you add race and religious doctrine, then one group sees the other groups as sub-human

I mean i would venture to guess some business/groups (If there "lives" depended) on it would somehow rationalize it to themselves that the ends (deaths of third worlder's and those that are not the "fittest" justify the means (which is their leadership ....in overseeing the general population to ensure some structure and stability to society (which in their warped logic is worth more lives i.e their leadership saves more lives, than the collateral effects of which kill

combine this with a beleif that 95 percent need to be told what to believe (by the 5%) this would give them the rationale to stretch and bend the truth, (reported thru various media) wether they believe you couldn't handle it, and/ or in order to keep a self perpetuating system going strong.

What are some things that could bring humanity closer? To view each human as a brother or sister, to view without hate or mistrust? How can we cease to be a American, or British, or Russian, or Muslim, and to just be a Earthling?

We are all taught who is good or bad, by a society that feeds off of our fears. Governments throughout history have dehumanized one nation or group of people to further there political or to justify power grabs through wars, and the religions have taught us that people of different faiths are heathens, and somehow less than human. Many religions go as far as stating that a open mind leaves it wide open from attacks or possessions by demons.

just brainstorming aloud

Yeah me 2

Just what would it take for us to open ourselves to this possibility, and if we do, what are the limits we could achieve? or would their even be any limits?

We are all made of stardust .we are all eternal spirits.

connected?

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Do you have Adobe reader? Its a PDF article.

Michio Kaku is another of my favorite authors.

Thats true many phenomena involving the mind or consciousness can't really be verified or denied. How about dreams, nightmares, ideas, inspiration, thought, intuition, deja vu, and empathy? Science is completely dependent on the subject for information. We can speculate and ponder why and how with potential factors, but we have no concrete evidence to prove dreams even happen.

Yes I do, I clicked it and it froze my browser.

And definitely. There is no reason for us to be dogmatic in our beliefs concerning consciousness, dreams, etc. All we really have on these things are speculation and first hand accounts. I'm glad some scientists today are looking towards the possibility that consciousness may be much more than just a result of brain activity, and psychic phenomena may be just a part of nature.

And since you mentioned you've read Kaku's books, which one do you recommend for a first timer?

is this why i can "sense" people when they look at me? or when i look at someone and think about them they turn? i tried to explain this to some people that i know but they think im crazy.

i dont know/think that im right but how possible would it be if the collective conciousness was a dimension?

Originally posted by drflux
is this why i can "sense" people when they look at me? or when i look at someone and think about them they turn? i tried to explain this to some people that i know but they think im crazy.

I take it you are not familiar with Rupert Sheldrake's research?
Google him up - you'll see... ; )


P.S. If the people around really think you are "crazy" because you can feel when somebody is looking at you, I'd suggest you change the company you keep... ASAP. : )

Really.






[edit on 3-12-2007 by Vanitas]

Originally posted by drflux
is this why i can "sense" people when they look at me? or when i look at someone and think about them they turn? i tried to explain this to some people that i know but they think im crazy.

i dont know/think that im right but how possible would it be if the collective conciousness was a dimension?

Not only when they look at you but studies by Dean Radin, who has researched this field for years, shows the human body begins reacting to stimuli 3 seconds before it occurs.

I dont think I would identify the source as another dimension, but sensorium seems to occur across Space and Time most likely through Quantum Entanglement.

Originally posted by Vanitas

I take it you are not familiar with Rupert Sheldrake's research?
Google him up - you'll see... ; )

Sheldrake's work has shown that that our Genes are only one part of a much grander picture just like the researchers dealing with Holographic and Quantum mind theories have shown the consciousness is very likely to be trans temporal and not simply a product of our Brain. If only someone could get all of these guys to work together on a project: Penrose, Pribram, Sheldrake, Radin, Hameroff, Vallee, Baars, Goswami, and Stapp. Who knows what they would discover?

Take one monkey away from his tribe,,,,teach him how to do something none of the others know how to do,,,take the monkey back to his tribe, and you will notice that all the other monkeys know how to do what the oen was tought without him interacting with them.....