Originally posted by Riposte

I may be nitpicking, but Jesse Marcel Jr. was not witness to any material behavior from the debris he handled and saw at his house. He only held and closely looked at an I-beam with strange purple inscriptions.

Your statement is a little disingenuous.

How well do you know him?

He confirmed what I posted above over dinner with me on 20 October.

Dunno?, but seems to me this Roswell crap is exactly what new members express. (old too) who have done anykind of serious research of that area to June 1947. Should consider just leaving it alone now.

I mean, listen to experts such as Springer. Then, there's so much to learn here even more to dismiss. Unreal garbage, up until the Algagashi (SP?)Incident.(Wieners) -=- Everything Changes !!

Dallas

Originally posted by bovarcher
How well do you know him?

He confirmed what I posted above over dinner with me on 20 October.

Confirmed what? What behavior did he confirm? He has never stated in any interview that he witnessed any behavior of the materials at all.

He never touched the foil-like material. So what behavior are you talking about?

For everyone rightfully asking when we are going to share what we learned...

One of the BIGGEST rules of MSM is they get it FIRST. If we post what we have here on ATS they won't talk to us period. They will tell us that it's old news and they don't do repeats.

In the event you doubt me ask anyone you know who is in touch with the powerhouse MSM outlets (60 minutes, 48 hours, 20-20, etc...) about this fact.

We have a professional PR firm under retainer and we do what they tell us to do because they KNOW the business of MSM and they have been 100% successful in getting our "message" out and bringing the "players" we need face time with in front of us.

I just got home from Roswell a little while ago and I am exhausted but still "excited" about what we have and the fact we have the opportunity to present our case to some SERIOUS MSM folks because of our November 5th event. (are you starting to connect the dots of our big plan yet? )

All that being said, I want to share what we have RIGHT NOW, but that would be the end of the "plan" I wrote about in the opening post of this thread.

I PROMISE each and everyone who reads this that if the MSM blows us off we will present EVERYTHING here immediately after and let the chips fall where they may.

But, until they have a chance to act or not act on an "exclusive" we simply must play by their rules or the money and time (and maybe the health of one of my partners/DEAR friends) we just spent the past three days will have been wasted.

So please be patient, be cool and let us do what we set out to do the way I described it in the opening post of this thread.

Naysayers are going to jump all over this and claim we are "hyping" or "there's no way we could find anything they couldn't find", yadda yadda yadda... Let them come too.

In the end we will either start the groundswell of public opinion/demand or we will not, but I assure you if we don't it's not because we didn't try in the most intelligent way we could think of.

Springer...




[edit on 12-1-2007 by Springer]

Originally posted by Polite American
Mr Springer. not to downplay your research into the Roswell incident but to be honest with you I think everyone is pretty worn down by the whole trampled and rehashed Roswell thing, "Ho-hum...more Roswell crap..Yaaawn"

Springer and Crakeur went to Roswell, as that's where the FOI documents were being stored by Clifford Stone. They are not specifically researching the Roswell event, as far as I can tell. They are finding clues and paper trails that lead wherever it takes them...

For example, the crashing of a 3 ton object in Sudan in 1967 is not exactly related to Roswell 1947, is it?

Any series of factual, papers issued by government agencies will be difficult to refute, if they are well researched and validated.

As frustrating as it might be to wait for the MSM to get the scoop on it, I can understand the logic behind the game that must be played to hopefully maximise the usefulness of any interesting information.

Good luck, Springer and here's hoping that you're able to beat them at their own game.

So the USSR was the only country in 1967 with the rocket power that size capable of blasting 3 tons into orbit.That orbit could have been a lunar orbit around the dark side of the moon. IN fact the russians could lift a 75 ton payload with the LK-1 engine. The Luna series were first to land an "object" on the moon. I wonder what happened to it?

I am fairly new ATSer but I applaud the efforts of "TEAM ATS". Just look at today's news on "Destination Truth" Yeti footprint..lesson learned you are more likely to find something if you are looking. Good Luck!

Springer:

I fully trust your judgement in this matter and patiently await whatever is to come from your efforts with Sgt. Stone.

Originally posted by Springer
For everyone rightfully asking when we are going to share what we learned...

One of the BIGGEST rules of MSM is they get it FIRST. If we post what we have here on ATS they won't talk to us period. They will tell us that it's old news and they don't do repeats.

In the event you doubt me ask anyone you know who is in touch with the powerhouse MSM outlets (60 minutes, 48 hours, 20-20, etc...) about this fact.
[edit on 12-1-2007 by Springer]

I have dealt with media such as video game sites and magazines, and mags like Maxim, Playboy, Penthouse, etc, and they won't even review a product that's been out in other media outlets a month prior. It becomes old news quick. This is totally true, and a good reason not to disclose it anywhere else first.

If MSM turns you down, move right on to mags like Popular Science next, they'll cover it.

[edit on 1-12-2007 by Grey Basket]

Originally posted by danx
And there aren't any legitimate documents regarding Roswell? Then I guess you don't know or haven't researched much on Roswell.

Gimme a break! any document having to do with roswell is so tainted or debunked or unproven that it isn't worth the efort to mention them.

And if we were to stop doing research on something because the media or the general public views ufology/ufologists as a bunch of 'wackos' then nothing had been researched since 1947.

Roswell has been researched to death. Anytime someone mentions Roswell you can virtually hear the air swooshing out of the room and everyones eyes glaze over...HO- EFFIN -HUM! Roswell has been clubbed to death like a baby seal. MOVE ALONG to a new and fresh subject with possibiities.

If you think this would be ATS' 'debut' then you know nothing about ATS

Really, so are you saying ATS has had a TV special before?...really?...I must have missed it...

First off, thanks for taking the initiative to go do the research, great work! For the neysayers, when was the last time or ever, have you done any research in the field? It gets pretty comfortable just sitting BEHIND the computer.

Get the information in the general publics face as often as you can, don't let it cool off. Manipulating, I mean persuading the MSM to get the information out there is the best way.