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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 09:47 AM by rjmelter
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My drive in life is to serve justice and truth, and insure a future for more generations to come, that said... its not easy for me to do so in this
world. The world has been designed to stop people such as myself, and I will succumb to it, I have no choice. But If The government has leaked out
or let out information and is letting it out to the public slowly then it is evident that they want to release it too but know something we dont...
A theory would be that the religious factions on the earth would protest such findings and selfishly destroy humanity because their inability to
accept anything other then what they've been taught for generations.
The truth is very overwelming and it has to be taught slowly so that we can evolve slowly with the truth. Also we would have to be well equipped to
start exploring the truths of the universe... you never want to go into something blind. We are a very primitive species still and we have to learn
to complexities on intelligence and love, and that our entire existance in built upon that love, and that respect from love and of love. We are a
hateful species, so we are not ready. Those are some very basic reasons IMO.
When will the world be ready? When we decide to start cleaning up our acts and the earth and make it a better place for future generations..... and
visitors.....
Im waiting... very impatiently. I Do no believe I will ever get to see the day that our world joins together in truth, we would all rather be
ignorant...
If I can help in any way let me know. My Profession is in Personal Training, and im working on a degree in psychology. Im currently a manager at a
gym (age 21 woot!) I believe in people and I believe that they should be healthy. One of the first steps in an amazing life. Thats what I want for
all people. My capabilites and understanding far exceed those few things tho. Im good with computers, technology, and anything I am motivated to
learn. I love to learn, as should you, because we have been blinded from the truth and have a lot to learn.
Rj
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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 10:52 AM by SKUNK2
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You can't be serious???
If Springer and Crakeur havn't told the oldest members of this sight, why will they show you the infomation??? They won't, because so much is at
stake. For all we know you could just be some sneaky journalist of the MSM trying to get the story for free...
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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 11:37 AM by Has2b
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I assure you and the entire membership of ATS that if Springer IS serious ( and he can back up his claims with fact) then so am I. I'll easily find
$200,000.00
Thankyou perhaps that is why the post has so far been ignored.
Big League Media negotiation is indeed an area of expertise or experience.
If it helps, subject to quality of the "sample goods" we could probably easliy add an extra zero or two to the figure sought (I am aware he is not
that naive to be serious about that amount if what he said was true!)
I have read the entire thread and so far seen nothing to suggest there is any substance but hey..... I choose to keep an open mind.
Approaching the big league players (called "A" in thread) or even second teir as a FIRST step was demonstrable naivity in the extreme!!!
eg
Go down the list way down get say "M" leagues (independant doco producers or publishing houses) that would kill for what is claimed to be held. Get
them hooked and bending over backwards for the "deal" then progressively work up. That is how promotion of a touchy high risk subject is handled. By
the time you have "D leaguers" interested the "A" leaguers will be pounding on his door demanding first right of refusal contracts.
A professional could do this without dishonour or deciet and ensure the time and committment by say the " B-M 's" involved in the process is still
valuable to them and they share in the big picture.
I was expecting the comment/reply "oh but we don't have the time or money to promote it ....."we are working on 25 other projects"
But again a professional could ensure that self generating funding ensures an full time promotion negotiation team is self funded by the project!
All this is subject to "quality and validity of the merchandise"
Intesest arises from a recent thread ... moved to Skunkworks !..... on the basis that there can be no proof offered!!!!
Now I enjoy occasional visits to this site. Fun is fine indeed enjoyable! But there IMO is a duty of care to the thousands of impressionable young
adults & children who also look at threads like these.
What would you do with the proof/ solid evidence of ET existance on this planet?
Lock it up in a vault? Promote it to the world as a part time hobby?
Make value judgements for the whole planet, that it's "just not ready"?
WHAT I ASK would it hurt or harm if under a bonded NDA, if one external independant professional (not necessarily me) , saw enough to verify the value
and authenticy of the claims and advised on strategy to bring it to market?
Note all media outlets so far have "passed" I gather from scant info in the thread for several reasons but one apparently indicated " not
compelling enough"
I mean no malice or disrespect. If it is all about getting hit count up for advertisers then I say well done!!!!!!... but what about the kids ?
....it is getting very "smelly" the longer it goes!?
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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 07:11 PM by Springer
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Our PR firm has this firmly in hand and we have the funding needed to do the docu if we end up needing to do it. What you don't know is there are
other deals in the works our agent is working on that we will wait to resolve before we make that call.
WRT your "smelly comment" this thread wouldn't constitute .00001% (do some research in the "stats thread"  ) of our traffic so "hit count"
(worthless in today's web business anyway) is certainly NOT what's driving this.
Springer...
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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 07:21 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 14-6-2008 @ 08:21 PM by Has2b
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Thanks for reply. I realise short "oneliners" are unacceptable so delete the acknowledgement if you like.
WRT... that wasn't what I was referring to.
Finally seems to be progressing rapidly, especially developments in the last few weeks!
Respectfully suggest you get PR company to advise you on how to build promo credibility!
I accept the need for secure private negotiation. Good luck with that.
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reply posted on 17-6-2008 @ 07:30 PM by iridescent
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miller gold. that why they are here !! We serve their purpose. We produce mass quantities of MGD. I think....
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reply posted on 1-7-2008 @ 03:17 PM by rjmelter
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TEAM ATS!
Should we start making commercials for ATS and post them on YouTube? or just make good videos and post conspiracy theory brought to you by ATS?
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reply posted on 5-7-2008 @ 06:37 PM by Dronetek
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Originally posted by rjmelter
TEAM ATS!
Should we start making commercials for ATS and post them on YouTube? or just make good videos and post conspiracy theory brought to you by ATS?
If you guys need help with promos, I'm pretty good with video editing. I've been doing promo videos for bf2combat.net and liveleak.com for years
now. Let me know if you're interested and I can show you some of my work.
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 02:31 AM by Bhadhidar
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Before releasing these documents and your findings to the public, has the ATS Team considered first having the material reviewed by a publicly known
"skeptic"; under Non-disclosure Agreement constraints of course.
Although this might further delay the release of these eagerly anticipated findings, such an action would serve as a sort of "Peer Review" common as
accepted protocol within academic and scientific circles.
ATS would thus be adding further credence to its claims of authenticity and "Sucking some of the wind out of the sails" of the eventual
"debunkers" even before they've had a chance to "suck it up".
After all...
"A truly Wise General can convince His Opponent to Surrender Without ever having Fought A Single Battle"
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 10:21 AM by Springer
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Yes we've done that and plan on having two more do so. Even though there is no question about the documents authenticity. All the original envelopes,
cover letters, etc... are included.
Springer...
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 03:33 PM by Bhadhidar
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EXCELLENT!
I've just tightened my seatbelt another notch.
This roller-coaster ride promises to be one for the record books!
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 04:00 PM by jimmyx
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Originally posted by Springer
reply to post by Bhadhidar
Yes we've done that and plan on having two more do so. Even though there is no question about the documents authenticity. All the original envelopes,
cover letters, etc... are included.
Springer...
[edit on 7-6-2008 by Springer]
you sound like you have all your "ducks line up in a row". and since i'm still a lowly newbie, i will assume that you have probably already got
this covered. i remember reading about something important that happened in history in the 30's or 40's and the author along with verifiable proof,
sent out a press release to 50 newspapers around the U.S. and only 1 actually printed the story because of it's volatle nature....as the say in
computer tech talk...backup, backup, backup the information. and thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this. most of us do not have the
money or the savvy to put something together like this.
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 04:54 PM by Springer
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Considering the "roller coaster" is only going about 1 mile an hour I'm not sure how exciting it's going to be, at least not until we get the
media spots we want.
IF (and trust me it's a HUGE "if") we get the spots we want on the shows we want THEN it Will be exciting. We are convinced that the only way we
are going to get the Prime Time exposure we know this needs is by being a much bigger "player" in the media world than we are right now.
We have several projects cooking right now to do just that, these will take time but I can say they are progressing nicely.
Springer...
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reply posted on 6-7-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Smugallo
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Nice update Springer.
Whether it's 'huge' or not, I'm pretty certain most of the guys and gals following this thread, and the whole membership of course, will find it
very exciting. Am I right in thinking there is nothing in te FOIA archive on this site related to it yet?
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reply posted on 7-7-2008 @ 02:26 PM by Springer
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You are correct in thinking there is nothing related to this in the archives... Yet.
Springer...
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reply posted on 8-7-2008 @ 08:37 PM by rjmelter
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haha, if you do a media show for TV I would be happy to be an actor. People take me seriously all the time when im natural. When I was at Panama
City Beach this past weekend ... the girls we were with were late and had to go home... long story short they dropped us off 4 mile walk/run later me
and my bud were in the back of a truck with some weedheads (I hated every second of it) Anyways not sure if its their paranoia or not but everyone
there thought I was a cop. Then other girls I met thought I was a cop. I felt good thought because they all said I was hot!!! And its more then just
my red ******SunBurn lol.
The anwser to getting attention is getting the right peoples attention. Attract kids... Let them attract their parents.
Attract everyone but UFO enthusiasts
Attract more specifically UFO Skeptics by stating why it couldn't be true but perhaps Human Made stuff but then present the facts so that UFO found
on earth taught humans how to make the stuff etc etc. Its all about the approach. I know im a lowly 1400 point newbie but seriously... If I can help
in any way im multi-talented and giving up is not something I understand how to do. I wiped out 30 times before I figured out how to stand on the
skimmer board this last week  Ill take the blows if I have to... but I will make it on top of the water
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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 07:55 PM by Shere Khaan
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Anything new to update us with Springer? Can't wait for some more juicy docs in the document archive
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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 08:59 PM by kshaund
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Originally posted by Springer
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Anyone got an extra $200,000.00 for the production costs?
Springer...
$200,000 ? for a documentary with Clifford's documents? Sounds outrageously high - doesn't need special effects and fancy anything - surely you can
figure a way to do it for a quarter of that amount especially if people donate their time, or part of it
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reply posted on 10-8-2008 @ 03:55 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Thank you for the opportunity to post a message since i never have done so but I think the topic and issuea compel me to do so.
I have always felt or should I say reasoned that intelligent life must exist beyond the earth, simply based upon the law of probabilitiy. It was not
until quite recently, frankly in my sixties, that I pursued a tip that I found quite revealing. In a organization of which i am a member I found that
one of our prominent members and a dear friend was the son of the Commanding Officer at Roswell at the time of the infamous incident. When I
questioned him about it, he said quite clearly, "they're real, where do you think we got lasers?"
Beyond that he had nothing to offer other than his mother, wife of the deceased commander, was visited annually by some federal agency to assure that
she didn't reveal anything further that her husband shared with her.
I do not participate in the debate since the lack of "real" evidence seems to be lacling but I can say without equication that my friend and contact
is beyond reproach.
I post this as a response to all others who seek further confirmation that we are not all suffering from some dillusion. My conversations are real
and the responses are properly reported from an individual with the highest integrity.
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