posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 10:47 AM
I noticed the thread on the Rockefeller/ Carter attempt at "disclosure" and felt this was a good time to let interested Members know that "Team
ATS" is in Roswell right now on a mission.
The fact Rockefeller and Carter couldn't get it done is not surprising since Jimmy Carter is reported to have told several people that when he tried
to dig into the situation as PRESIDENT he was flatly denied and told that the President doesn't have the all powerful "need to know".
This is precisely why "Crakeur" and I are in Roswell (I am typing this post in a Roswell hotel room) to spend the day with Clifford Stone.
I don't believe any single person will ever effect disclosure, I believe it will take a huge groundswell of public opinion and demand. The only way
to get that public demand is to get the MSM involved. The only way to get the MSM involved is to play the game by their rules.
Dr. Greer tried several years ago but went over the top, IMHO, with all the "aliens are among us now and we're all gonna die" stuff. That's all
the MSM people heard, the very serious testimony and documentation was utterly ignored.
You see, it is my personal opinion that it's not the public who isn't ready, it's the MSM, the people who have careers and reputations on the line.
No serious news person is going to risk their job and credibility on anything that can't be vetted. If you come off the blocks shouting the aliens
are among us and the President is a reptile nobody is going to talk to you.
If you come off the blocks with a series of documents, REAL, legit, papers from the very government we suspect is covering something up you
have a solid shot at getting the attention of some VERY serious and very powerful MSM types.
If their is a genuine cover up and you can convince the average person that there is, you can initiate disclosure by civil pressure. Assuming you can
avoid the concepts and topics that make the average person roll their eyes and switch the channel. Avoiding those but presenting the hard evidence.
That being said, the hard evidence is very difficult to prove unless you really know what you are doing. Remember, if it's supposed to be covered up
it starts on day two.
Taking Roswell as an example, suspending disbelief and assuming it was an alien craft that crashed there, the first day the "truth" got out, the
second day the cover up started. That leaves you with a huge paper trail BUT those writing the papers, especially the classified stuff, were not going
to use obvious language in the documents, i.e "The alien craft was shipped to Ohio". No, they would write something like "the debris was crated and
shipped to Ohio" which is very vague and very easy to deny was anything more than a weather balloon.
The trick for the expert researcher is to keep digging, there should be a description of the debris in a separate report, or maybe a series of other
documents that add providence to the first indicating just what the "debris" was.
The problem in the past has been the "over the top" bits are all anyone paid attention to and that feeds into the conspirators hands, again,
assuming their are conspirators, in such an obvious way it's silly.
The concept we are going to employ will be to focus solely on the ascertainable facts that can be vetted. The facts that the average person could and
would believe is possible. If the facts show there is a cover up and we stick exclusively to that and avoid the speculation of what else could be
going on I think we stand a fair chance of at least getting some very big time media attention which will hopefully spread like wildfire.
If their are disinfo agents out there they won't be able to blow holes in documented facts and the MSM will be climbing over each other to get the
I guess the point is, we plan to present a sober, rational and very well documented case that completely avoids the wild eyed "there's an alien
behind every bush" (pun intended ) stuff that sends the MSM and the average person packing if Clifford has the documents we have been told he
That's another possible "issue" as well, what someone who has spent many years in the military, and many more years researching FOIA sees in a
document set could be very different than what we would see, but that's why we're here in Roswell... to find that out.
I'll update this thread after our meetings with Clifford.
[edit on 11-29-2007 by Springer]