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This is Why I Think "The Greys" Might Be a Myth...

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posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 06:41 AM
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Why would an advanced race all look the same?

Let's bring it back here to Earth for a second. I'm going to just throw out a completely random name: George Clooney. Could you imagine if every single man and woman on this planet all looked exactly like George Clooney? I can't even seriously imagine what that would be like. How would we know who was who?

Since we have no proof of any type of Alien race, if we wanted to try and guess what an advanced Alien race might look like, the only reference we have to go by is our own human race. Look at us. We all essentially have the same brain, but we all look completely different. If you stood an obese African woman next to a tall and skinny European man, someone from the outside looking in would probably never guess that they were even the same race/species.

I think by now you see my point. It is probably safe to say that we (humans) are pretty advanced beings, at least when compared to animals, and that there obviously must be some reason why our DNA purposely makes each and every one of us look unique from the rest. So doesn't it sound logical to assume that advanced races who evolved on other planets in the Universe are also setup in the same way?

I just can't seem to fathom a little planet in Zeta 2 Reticuli where there are billions of "Grey George Clooneys" who all look exactly the same.

What does everyone think about this?




posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:00 AM
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advanced human beings


we are not advanced human beings..

We are being kept like cattle in a society, being manipulated through several lies everyday. We're destructive, self loving beings.
We are literally been hammered a nail into our heads programming us that there is no other world than what we can see and measure.

You call this advanced?



Our anatomy compared to our environment is poor.
Quoting Col. Corso, who wrote army reports on the greys, he also stated that the grey just like we were bio engineered lifeforms, just they were only 4 feet tall but with a much better muscular structure.


Speculating about this phenomenon brings you nowhere.


ince we have no proof of any type of Alien race


We have proof but noone accepts it ( yet ).


who evolved on other planets in the Universe are also setup in the same way?


Indepth study reveals that evolution is an absolute bogus.
Life doesn't "evolve" like that, DNA does not program itself.



I just can't seem to fathom a little planet in Zeta 2 Reticuli where there are billions of "Grey George Clooneys" who all look exactly the same.


Not possible only in a reality, where you believe that the chance of 1/999999~ took place and we evolved in a randomly but perfect environment.


[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:04 AM
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Interesting idea.

But, what if the 'greys' aren't really individuals in the same sense that we are? Our ecosystems have many examples of "hive" or "herd" groups that work together to accomplish some goal. Within those groups, individuals are nearly impossible to distinguish. Consider an ant colony for instance, admittedly, not very bright. But what about a whale pod that cooperates when hunting? Researchers who spend lifetimes studying whales can identify individual whales, but I know I can't....they all look identical to me. And, they don't usually identify them by some genetically caused differences....the distinguishing marks are usually caused by some external, environmental factors....scars, distinctive barnacle growths.

I have heard tales of the 'greys' having some slight differences between 'types'. Which has an analogy to an ant colony or bee hive. Worker bees, drones, and queens can all be identified visually.

I don't think 'greys' are individuals. I think they are an advanced bug.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by MrPenny]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Paul the seeker

we are not advanced human beings..


I suppose it would depend on your definition of "advanced". In my view....having the fate of a planet's biology and environment within your control, ranks a species as advanced.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by MrPenny]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by Paul the seeker

we are not advanced human beings..


I suppose it would depend on your definition of "advanced". In my view....having the fate of a planet's biology and environment within your control, ranks a species as advanced.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by MrPenny]


Could you imagine that we are not even half stage in the food chain?

You think we control ourselves, our animals etc.
Yet you don't realize that there could be an alien presence here controlling us 100% eating human babies for dinner and enjoy creating and watching our wars?



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:11 AM
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double post.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:19 AM
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Perhaps it could be that we humans simply aren't attuned to the particular markers that differentiate individual "grays" from one another.

For example, if you had three field mice before you there is a good chance that you'd not be able to tell one of them from another. But I'm sure that the mice themselves can.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:21 AM
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Interesting thought, Diplomat...

Consider the theory of the greys being several hundred, if not thousands, of years in advance of us in the evolutionary stakes, and having in that time interbred so much they can only produce a single race. In the same vein, how would we know what the human race would look like in the same, say, twenty thousand years of cross racial breeding? More and more social and racial barriers are crumbling here on earth, despite religious and racial bigotry. Perhaps in our future, if we all end up in that "great big melting pot" would any of us look awfully different from each other? (Just a thought from someone with no real understanding of genes and DNA!)

However, my own personal take on the grey race, and many of the supposed crashed/shot down UFOs, is this; if you were a technologically advanced race, one who can produce machinery that defies lesser species understanding of physics, one who can traverse vast tracts of space (and maybe time, who knows?), would you need to explore an aggresive "alien" planet personally? Or would you send out disposable drones/clones/biomechanical entities instead?

I fully believe that greys are nothing more than incredibly advanced versions of our Martian landers. They may well be self sustaining, completely autonomous, able to think logically and defensively, but at the end of the day they are still manufactured for specific purposes.
The same goes, IMO, for most UFOs. Why risk entering the earth's atmosphere with your universe beating starship, your ride home, and risk being attacked? (If that sounds illogical, as in how could we possibly harm such advanced tech, well, wouldn't a stone, a simple boulder, disable a tank's tracks, thus rendering it immobile?) All we see in the sky are next gen X 10 UAVs.

Of course, all of this is pure speculation, with no evidence to back it up. But logically, it makes perfect sense. To me, anyway.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Paul the seeker
there could be an alien presence here controlling us 100% eating human babies for dinner and enjoy creating and watching our wars?


Sure. Keywords being "could be". Not "is". I can imagine that...much like a screenwriter imagines any of a number of fantastic scenarios. What I know is, I could step out my back door, drop a few matches, and be responsible for the destruction of thousands of acres of hard wood, and possibly several structures. Just me. One of six billion.

I don't subscribe to the view that we are somehow "controlled" or manipulated by a super advanced species. "Greys" sure do seem somewhat skittish and sneaky for the power they supposedly wield. And those people who do? Forgive me, but I think it's a case of "giving up". They are overwhelmed by the ugliness that surrounds us and decide to attribute it to some external stimulus. Face it....humans are nasty, cruel, advanced beings. And we are the top of the local food chain.

Descriptions of the capabilities of the 'greys' certainly sound incredibly advanced and powerful....but are they any more "magical" than what Europeans exhibited to indigenous people thousands of years ago? Maybe not. Four hundred years ago, a butane lighter would have astounded and amazed a Brazilian rain forest dweller. Today? Old magic. Heck, the Central American natives bestowed godhood on the Spanish.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by MrPenny]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by Paul the seeker
there could be an alien presence here controlling us 100% eating human babies for dinner and enjoy creating and watching our wars?


Sure. Keywords being "could be". Not "is". I can imagine that...much like a screenwriter imagines any of a number of fantastic scenarios. What I know is, I could step out my back door, drop a few matches, and be responsible for the destruction of thousands of acres of hard wood, and possibly several structures. Just me. One of six billion.

I don't subscribe to the view that we are somehow "controlled" or manipulated by a super advanced species. "Greys" sure do seem somewhat skittish and sneaky for the power they supposedly wield. And those people who do? Forgive me, but I think it's a case of "giving up". They are overwhelmed by the ugliness that surrounds us and decide to attribute it to some external stimulus. Face it....humans are nasty, cruel, advanced beings. And we are the top of the local food chain.

Descriptions of the capabilities of the 'greys' certainly sound incredibly advanced and powerful....but are they any more "magical" than what Europeans exhibited to indigenous people thousands of years ago? Maybe not. Four hundred years ago, a butane lighter would have astounded and amazed a Brazilian rain forest dweller. Today? Old magic. Heck, the Central American natives bestowed godhood on the Spanish.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by MrPenny]



I don't get why everyone speculates on the greys in such a limited view.

You certainnly base your speculation on that they "evolved", that they're free like us and that they are having minds, and thought patterns like we do.
You are a freak seriously if you compare humanity to those beings.


My research really concluded, that the greys is a species that is certainly not free, that they are mind programmed like we are, just with more intensity.
Why are they more intelligent then? Just because they need to be more intelligent to do their work.
It seems apparent, that they are inhabiting spacecraft all the time.
You can see it like they are a part of the ship itself. They atleast have a controller one, that is guiding the craft through a device that works with the brain directly.

They are here to overwatch humanity, they also interfer with the military a lot. I suspect they have taken down several nuclear plants.
If we ever tried a nuclear war, they would have disabled the nukes simply, they have done that with test missiles.
It is also said, that they govern these strange "Men in Black", that give you a little visit at home if you know too much. But i don't know if their behind that.

With certainty i tell you that they simply biorobots, which is really the way "future" robots are made.

But there are also the "big greys" which I don't know what their job is. However I'm sure that they have more to say than the little ones.

And again, they are not free, they have no philosophy, they have no goal other than doing what they're told to do.
They are serving a kind of empire that runs this world aswell.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 07:49 AM
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I regret to say that your point is not valid.
The point where we all look different.
Actually we all look very much the same, the only think is that we are bombarded with image of different races right left and centre in media and other communication realm. Then after some time we all make note of some differences between us all. But at first view we all look a like...specially for a race coming from another world. So as we have not seen the so called Greys as much as our fellow human then we will be push to assume that they all look the same.
I remember when I was in China back in the 80s, it was very common that Chinese people view all European in the same like, as we in Europe we seen all Chinese the same also.

Kacou



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by kacou
I regret to say that your point is not valid.


I agree to some point, i can not giev you any evidence, just my perspective.

The research to do is mine and yours
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And since there is no evidence, while everything today is fakable and you're not allowed to know about Aliens i'd say were in a quite unique discussion here lol.



[edit on 29-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 08:06 AM
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I agree with you mostly Diplomat. I think the grey is largley our own creation! I think all the abduction storties I've come across are very dubious at best!

When it comes to other life in the Galaxy though, we can't really say how it might evolve. It may well be that on some planet, evolution works differently and many of the speices there look similar, but they disinguish each other by sound or smell.

Despite belief to the contrary, we have one example of life and self replicating DNA in the Universe- that's our own. One example makes for very bad statistics to extrapolate from.

In principle, I see no reason why a race like the Grey's couldn't evolve, but I have to say I think it is most unlikley they are anything but constructs of the human imagination.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 09:02 AM
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They could be biological machines, or clones. Their exterior also could be a suit, like our astronauts and space suits.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Raoul Duke]



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 09:25 AM
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You missed my point.
I do not dismiss or account for the existence of the Grey, I have no clue if all this is real or not.
As you said to many fakable stuff going a round every where.
My point was about your "tactic" to dismiss the existence of grey.
My view is all this grey phenomena is mainly regenerated by our psychic, if you like to debunk the phenomena I advise you to look in the deepest fear of human and there most probably you will find a good raison to dismiss the reality of the grey.
But again we have things to do, like working, loving, and so on, so no much time to search the real origin of the grey.
But I will not dismiss a certain extraterrestrial visitation, for the simple reason is that the universe is too big for only one species.
Apart from that I have no clue..

kacou



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 11:34 AM
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Nearly every single other species on this planet look nearly identical to eachother. If we have 5 billion races, our odds to develop to look different to eachother is something like 10/5 000 000 000.

It is therefore not a miracle that the greys look alike.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 11:50 AM
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I think the Greys are a creation of the media. That is the standard image of an alien to most people, over-exaggerated head, big eyes, skinny body. The character Thor in Stargate SG-1 is an example and Cyrpto from the video game Destroy All Humans. I believe in life outside of earth but I don't think they would look like the Greys....maybe similar characteristics but not exactly.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by kacou
I regret to say that your point is not valid.
The point where we all look different.
Actually we all look very much the same, the only think is that we are bombarded with image of different races right left and centre in media and other communication realm.


Are you talking about the same human race that I am? Because actually, No, we do not all look very much the same. Every person's facial features are unique from the next. You might get lucky and find 2 humans that look very similar, but not in the way that people have described the Greys.

People describe the Greys as looking exactly the same, with the exact same facial features.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Paul the seeker

we are not advanced human beings..


We are pretty advanced compared to animals, which are the only things we have to compare ourselves to. Animal species all look pretty much the same, especially when it comes to facial features. We are the only intelligent lifeforms on this planet and we happen to have very distinct and unique facial features.


Originally posted by Paul the seeker
Our anatomy compared to our environment is poor.
Quoting Col. Corso, who wrote army reports on the greys, he also stated that the grey just like we were bio engineered lifeforms, just they were only 4 feet tall but with a much better muscular structure.


Col. Corso couldn't prove a damn thing. The History Channel also did a nice job at beginning to debunk his claims that all of our important technologies came from "The Greys."


Originally posted by Paul the seeker

We have proof but noone accepts it ( yet ).


Please, by all means, prove to me once and for all that Alien races exist. I would love to see that. I have been researching this stuff for about 10 years and have yet to see any "proof." Nothing but stories and fairy tales... The fact is, we as a society have no concrete evidence of an Alien race.


Originally posted by Paul the seeker
Indepth study reveals that evolution is an absolute bogus.
Life doesn't "evolve" like that, DNA does not program itself.


Is that right? Wow, you seem to know for sure. Why don't you just prove how we were created then and end the world-wide speculation for good?



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 02:38 PM
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I like your post a lot MrPenny. You don't seem to claim to know for sure about the Greys, but instead are throwing out ideas and hypotheticals, which is all we really can do with this subject.

I agree that if the Greys truly aren't "individuals" that it is possible that they could all look the same, especially if they really are just some type of bug.

But since I have no Alien race to reference, I still have to assume that they would evolve in the same manner on their planet as we did on our planet. I easily could be incorrect, but for now with our current understanding of life outside of Earth, that explanation makes the most sense to me.

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Diplomat]

[edit on 29-11-2007 by Diplomat]



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