It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by andy1972
If your numbers were indeed fact..dont yo think the silence from the media would be the last thing you´d expect.
Casualties at an all time low !!!...look...were ARE winning the war etc etc.
What i thinks happening here is a fact you dont seem to mention..
CHRISTMAS IS HERE..and who wants to learn about their sons dying in some foreign field when he should be at home shoving his face with turkey.
I think over the winter period the mainstream media will go quiet on all the things you dont want to know and show nothing but videos of Condoleeza Rice serving servicemen their apple sauce on a surprise visit.
Its all lies and crap..but meant to shield humans from heartbreaking facts at the most sensetive time of the year.
[edit on 30-11-2007 by andy1972]
Originally posted by jmilla
Just because the U.S. casualties are down does not mean we are "winning." It would be nice to have accurate numbers to compare to, such as Iraqi forces and civilian deaths and insurgent deaths. That really does not matter much either though, I wonder if we are patrolling the same areas, and if we are patrolling as heavily.
The main point is though, if we are "winning," what exactly are we winning?!?!? Lower oil prices? Less people in Al Queda? Less people in the Middle east want to bomb Americans? Unfortunately, none of those are the case. If we come home and secure our own borders, the number of casualties will drop to an unprecedented level in the War in Iraq; ZERO.
Vote Ron Paul!
Also there reaches a point where they start to run out of people willing to kill each other as they all dies off, but the more moderate Iraqi is still alive.
Originally posted by palehorse23
Don't you think that there are new Jihadists being trained as we speak?
check link for full article
WASHINGTON - Iraqis have not made enough progress toward learning to manage their security forces because they've had to divert too much attention to continued violence and sectarianism congressional investigators said Monday......"While the Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Interior, with coalition assistance, made some progress since August 2006 in developing their respective logistics, command and control, and intelligence capabilities ... persistent violence and sectarianism, along with immature ministerial capacity, continue to impede this progress," the report said.......The report also criticized the terminology the Pentagon uses for assessing the progress of Iraqi forces.
“ More Gulf War Veterans have died than Vietnam Veterans
US Dept. of Veterans: 73,846 US troops dead, 1,620,906 disabled
…The Department of Veterans Affairs, May 2007, Gulf War Veterans Information System reports the following:
Total U.S. Military Gulf War Deaths: 73,846
- Deaths amongst Deployed: 17,847
- Deaths amongst Non-Deployed: 55,999
Total "Undiagnosed Illness" (UDX) claims: 14,874
Total number of disability claims filed: 1,620,906
- Disability Claims amongst Deployed: 407,911
- Disability Claims amongst Non-Deployed: 1,212,995
Percentage of combat troops that filed Disability Claims 36%.....”