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Originally posted by Kacen
WiseSheep stop proselytizing and antagonizing, ....
Proselytize \Pros"e*ly*tize\, v. i.
To make converts or proselytes.
[1913 Webster]
Originally posted by Kacen
if you have nothing better to do in this forum than be an intolerable Christhumper than just get out.
Originally posted by Kacen
Your posts make me genocidal. e__e;;
Originally posted by WiseSheep
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Dirt is the corruptible so is the unregenerate spirit which is a child of satan by default. The regenerated spirit is the incorruptible.
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Originally posted by WiseSheep
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All men are called to repent and turn to Jesus Christ. Without HIM in you, there is no salvation or life.
Originally posted by TrueAce
I would have you define corruptible for me if you would be so kind. (^_-)
Originally posted by TrueAce
Taking you literally (rather than metaphorically), all things physical have the potential to be corrupted.
Originally posted by TrueAce
Was it satan who corrupted them?
Originally posted by TrueAce
To me it is quite obvious that having a satan figure is only a method of us giving away our responsibility for our own actions. You know the old excuse, "The devil made me do it!"
Originally posted by TrueAce
Love, when centered on Itself (that whichis Real), it is uncorruptible.
Originally posted by TrueAce
Perhaps I have been too straightforward in my expressions for you to accept my point of view with an open mind
Originally posted by TrueAce
If you truly feel at peace placing a man (i.e. Jesus Christ) before Him (i.e. God)
Originally posted by WiseSheep
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Since they are of their father, he can speak through them, guide them and use them to do anything. They have no clue they are being used. He can manipulate them to believe, and support anything.
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These people don't have understanding enough to know what they are following. They are just being led around by their father.
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Originally posted by WiseSheep
Yes but you are looking at the video trying to explain the holy time line who is set apart from the video and incorruptible.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
It was satan who enticed man to sin and therefore handing over what was man's to satan, including man.
This is where GOD sending his only son into the world to purchase us back comes into play.
Now the world is bought back. All authority in heaven and earth is given to Jesus.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
Actually the way it's used in the bible, the term satan and the way the greek word diabolos is used, are pretty much the same. Means adversary. So some people's version of "GOD" is really satan and some people's version of "satan" is really GOD.
That will get sorted out in the end. The wheat and the darnel if you will.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
So really if one isn't born again. Their nature is satan, in it's literal sense. "The devil made me do it." is nonsense. You made you do it.
This "nature" works together like clockwork in some instances and is the enemy of GOD.
Originally posted by WiseSheep
If you've tasted the things I have, trust me, your mind would be welded shut on it too. You after tasting it would then most likely do as I and attempt to spread the word so others could partake.
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Originally posted by TrueAce
Ah, coincidence abounds I see! It seems we share the same view, but use different definitions of the same thing.
Originally posted by TrueAce
To myself, the equivalent of 'satan' is the ego.
Originally posted by TrueAce
When I accepted these 'voices' as my own and accepted that only Love (i.e. God) could bring me back to sanity, their power over me waned and has been diminishing ever since.
Originally posted by TrueAce
I slowly came to accept parts of the ego over time.
Originally posted by TrueAce
Part of me (the part I shielded) knew better, and in many ways my consciousness became split. I 'acted' like I was going along with them in most cases, but only did so to gain the acceptance of the adults that ran my world.
Originally posted by TrueAce
As I have experienced, ego was not in me at my birth - it was grown and fostered by the world around me.
Originally posted by TrueAce
It is why I am so adamant when I say that ego (i.e. satan) is a creation of the world and a creation of man (an illusion) rather than a creation of God.
Originally posted by TrueAce
Quoting Shakespeare, "The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children."
Originally posted by TrueAce
You are awfully quick to judge that I am looking from the perspective of the video...
Originally posted by TrueAce
And even if I am, you are awfully quick to say that you are looking from the perspective of the holy time line...
Originally posted by TrueAce
I believe the holy time line can reveal itself through the video, and (unless my memory is mistaken) you have said the very same thing. To look at the video is a very valid way to better understand the holy time line - but only once faith in the holy time line is established and one is looking for the holy time line in the video.
Originally posted by TrueAce
LOL - I am just realizing that WiseSheep and I are probably the only ones understanding all of this jazz about this 'time line' and 'video' stuff. If anyone else is curious I would be more than happy to explain, but ATPIT I am under the impression that this sharing of information is only between the three of us. (^_-)
Originally posted by TrueAce
It was purchased back by his EXAMPLE.
Originally posted by TrueAce
People will use any label that creates a certain amount of comfort to them.
Originally posted by TrueAce
If they are following the ego and calling it god that is their lesson. As you say, it will get sorted out in the end...
Originally posted by TrueAce
There is no room in my reality for an 'adversary' of God
Originally posted by TrueAce
We are responsible for our own choices, and thus, all of us, at any point in time, are capable of being 'born again' as you call it!
Originally posted by TrueAce
You are talking to me after all, aren't you? (^_-)
Originally posted by WiseSheep
As you went on to say. "You define." Is it at all possible that what you define and what the creator defines are two totally different things? Although they may in a few points closely resemble each other.
Originally posted by TrueAce
I very muchso agree, but I have gotten the impression that others (who come from an ego perspective) will discredit and disregard a person who claims to have God thinking and perceiving FOR them...
Originally posted by TrueAce
Ah, thank you for helping me come to terms with that painful reality (illusion).
Originally posted by TrueAce
I have always used that language (i.e. in my opinion, in my beliefs, what I perceive, etc) for the sake of attempting to communicate what I will below, but I realize now that much of it has caused separation in myself from Him...
Originally posted by TrueAce
Again, I thank you for exposing the illusion I mentioned above!
Originally posted by WiseSheep
You cannot know the father and not the son. They are one.
If you know any other, don't be surprised when he takes you to the lake with him.