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Originally posted by BlackProjects
It sounds like some are following a man not the word.
Hi back at ya Father/Son. Welcome to the party. Thanks for not telling me (and my family members here) what to think or how dopey we are.
I have a question for the rest of the brethren; have you noticed how the Sermons have a greater impact and depth when listened to on the Sabbath day?
I have listen to them on normal days and yes I still learn but nothing like compared to the depth of Sabbath day.
Till I found this site, I was alone because no one believed me and they still don't, except you guys, of course!
I am grateful for ALL of your cyber-fellowship... ...and am sure that in person we would all be better off but it's the mystery that's important! Maybe you guys have 1, 2, or more people you can share this with in person but you guys are the only ones for me. That's why I want to give thanks to God for you guys.
Originally posted by Anticipation of Peace
And isn't it a lovely Sabbath? I am enjoying it immensly!
Bronx, good call!
I don't understand how people can make any claims to who is who unless they have FULLY educated themselves on the enirety of what a person has written or said. They call us ignorant and misled, and yet they themselves choose not to educate themselves on things they have no understanding of.
Just as my dad tries to change my views as well, and puts me down, he refuses to read the books. So I have told him that if he wants to really debate the subject with me, he needs to become completely educated on my view as I am educated on his view (I was raised in that organization). If he does it, then will I go rounds with him.
So my suggestion to anyone who wants to continue to try to turn our heads, you must first know what you are talking about. However, you won't know what you are talking about unless you have been drawn. So when that day comes, then I will take heed to what anyone says.
God Bless brothers and sisters
Originally posted by TDubyu
When I found Ron's books all of that changed. I found it to be a book about end-time events that mostly talks about things from Genesis forward and not Revelation forward. Then everything became clear. It was amazing. I couldn't put the book down. Now I'm getting baptized next week.
Originally posted by BlackProjects
Now that the Feb date came and went..
Originally posted by BlackProjectsI guess these posters don't believe in pre trib rapture, antichrist, war of gog/magog. It sounds like some are following a man not the word.
To become a member of Weinland's Church you have to do what is above, plus read and reread the literature of Ronald Weinland. It always amazes me how these splinter readers put emphasis on THEIR writings, THEIR interpretations, instead of pointing the readers to study of the one book that holds all answers, the Holy Bible, as the introduction for new "babes in Christ". This church is no different. He states each person "must" listen to sermons posted on the website, that "God has designed to motivate you on the right path to follow".
He states if you have other doctrinal beliefs, you are not ready for fellowship. You must be totally indoctrinated to the beliefs and the standards of Ronald Weinland to have fellowship with his church. He banishes curiosity seekers, wanting only those who believe completely and totally in Weinland's interpretations.
He wants those convicted that he is right - so there will be total unity. This sounds extremely familiar, folks.
Then, after this, if one still has a desire, they have to send a full request to Weinland - including a status if they are a new person or with an Armstrong past. They have to commit to be obedient to the sabbath and annual Sabbaths of God - as Weinland has stated you cannot have a full relationship with God unless you are obedient to the command of keeping the Sabbath and Holy Days. Weinland orders new converts to abandon any employment on these days - they are not to work - and they must commit themselves to listen to his sermons every week.
Ronald Weinland speaks against other splinters - just as other splinters speak out against themselves. He claims the Living Church of God is asleep spiritually, the United Church of God is lax doctrinally, and Gerald flurry is "so far off base and in the height of spiritual arrogance". He then lists 4 other splinters that have all fallen asleep spiritually. It always amazes me how every splinter leader has no problem finding fault with other splinters - except themselves.