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You are reducing the Creator down to a mere Father Figure and demeaning what it is to be a Supreme Being.
God is not a "FATHER". God is a CREATOR BEING. If one is to assume that every iota of creation's grande majesty is within the swaying whims of a DIVINE ENTITY, you cannot equate it to a "FATHER".
A Father cannot CHOOSE how to design his children, a Father cannot Divinely design a soul, a personality, and a spirit to put into the vessel of the body. A FATHER cannot do that. A DIVINE BEING can.
A DIVINE BEING orders the universe, and order is defined by the whims of the SUPREME ENTITY. Answerable to no-one, not even the laws that It, itself, designs... the laws are constructs, and are as easy to change as a lightbulb for a Supreme Being.
That none of you here who claim religion understand the import or implications of what TOTAL POWER OVER CREATION implies is a great disservice to understanding as a whole.
God is either all loving (As even Evil is contained within the codified structure and indeed EMBODIED by God), It is a irreverant bastard (Who has set up a system where souls HE has divinely created and guided and shaped through creation are punished for being made exactly how God wills it), or it is a Figment.
These are the only three possibilities, when one considers what it means to be a SUPREME BEING.
I choose to believe in an All Loving God. You can have your punishment, your NEED to believe that sin corrupts, degrades, and disbars the soul from God's VERY CONDITIONAL LOVE (In such a case). You may believe the rhetoric, Dogma, Doctrine that all evil is hated by God... that God cannot bear to witness a part of its OWN MANIFEST FORM (As God is EVERYTHING).
Originally posted by Marineone
reply to post by worried08
CROW with or with out salt
[edit on 12-2-2008 by Marineone]
...and forced love is rape.
Originally posted by Mystery_Lady
I do have a contention with the 144,000 and their purpose. My views do not line up with his views. I haven't read in the Bible where it says the 144,000 are the ones that are going to be the rulers along with Christ. I have read that the 144,000 are select Jews that are going to be raised up by God to proclaim the Gospel in the end times along with the two witnesses.
Don't take everything this man says to heart. I'll believe he one of the witnesses when I see news clips of him breathing fire to protect himself against the enemy. Until then, I believe when the witnesses do come on the scene, we will know. I have a feeling that no one is going to have to be told that they are the witnesses. That they won't have a need to boast or tell others.
God did warn us that there will be a lot of false prophets, teachers, and preachers. Don't believe when you here Jesus is here or there. I would think that would go for the witnesses also. God will reveal who the witnesses are when they come on the scene in due time.
Originally posted by Firestorm
...and forced love is rape.
If you go to your local library there are shelves upon shelves and rows of books just about love. So there must be something about this love thing if you can write so much about it. Do 'you' know what love is?
So if God is all-love (in fact beyond love) why should God limit or choose this forced love for his creation?
Originally posted by Anticipation of Peace
JD - search and you will find. Alot of what is taught is your desire to learn and be sincere about it. We will lead you in the right direction, but the answers you need to find for yourself as that is the only way you will truly be able to make a decision for yourself. Having people just tell it to you is more easily discredited. I could answer your question, but it would be easier for you to disagree.