reply to post by Ndoki53
Sorry Ndoki, but the two witnesses are clearly people, and not organisations.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this
manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the
earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall
overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead
bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets
tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and a half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld
These verses say that the witnesses are killed at the END of their testimony. You seem to think this killing and the end of this testimony was your
leaders being put in jail, but people are still knocking on my door offering me the watchtower magazine etc, so their "testimony" has not yet ended,
so it doesn't fit. Also the scriptures say their testimony lasts 1260 days, not their deaths or what you refer to as imprisionments. They are killed
at the end of the 1260 days, not imprisoned for this time, so once again it doesn't fit, since what you describe is their power being taken away for
this period of time, which is quite the opposite of what the scriptures describe, and this killing is to takes place in Jerusalem. Also you seem to
think that Ron Weinland cannot be one of the witnesses because he has yet to be killed and brought back to life, but once again, this happens at the
END of their testimony.
Even Jesus himself does not know the day or hour. What makes Mr. Weinland think he is more "in-the-know" than Jesus? We are told in this
scripture only the Father knows.
When Jesus said that he didn't know, but since it is Jesus who opens the seals of revelation I am sure you can see that even he will know. Also you
are forgetting a couple of scriptures...
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief
[edit on 13/2/08 by doctorex]