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Evil Dream - Demons & the Pope - Any Help?

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posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 06:32 AM
I had one really Weird/Evil Dream about 2 months ago, and I have decided to post it here, to see if anyone has any ideas as to why i experienced this as i have been reading some similar experiences posted here.

Firstly for some background info, I manage a skeptic/paranormal website, so i have always loved the unknown side of life. I was brought up as a roman catholic, though never practiced my faith other than simply believing in God.

Around the middle of this year, i was getting heavily into reading up on so called occult organizations and conspiracies such as the theosophical society, masons, share international, skull & bones, bohemian grove and pagan religions etc. I was also reading up on and watched several documentaries on the occult. I was kinda all over the place, constantly changing my opinion every time i read someone else point of view.

Eventually I got fixed on researching the History of the Roman Catholic Church and conspiracies surrounding the Jesuits and the Black Pope and Pope John Paul IV warnings.

Anyway it was at this point in my life about 2 months ago when i was preparing to go to sleep at around 1 in the morning. I had been reading up on how 'the Church is the whore of babylon' and 'Satanism in the Vatican!' from the website

I then went to sleep....

Very rarely can i ever remember my dreams after being awake for more than an hour, and the dreams that i do remember to today are flashbacks of images only. ALL of the dreams that i remember with exception to the one i'm soon to describe have always been notifying me of something about to happen. For example a few years ago i dreamed of an old school friend, and sure enough I ran into her that very morning on my way to work.

This dream was different I remember everything including the words spoken to me, if i think about it as i am now it still completely freaks me out, i go all cold and feel faint, and i also WORE the marks of my dream when i awoke.

Basically my recollection of my dream starts with me looking at myself lying in bed asleep, my door is shut, though i know my parents and brother are in the lounge room opposite my room, for some reason i was calling out to them telling them about the event in 1917 at Fatima when the Virgin Mary supposedly appeared to a crowd of 70,000 people, i was basically saying that it was not mary and was the anti christ.

All of a sudden the three girls were standing out side my room, on the other side of the door, I could not see them as my door was shut though i felt they were there staring me down. A split second later the girls vanished and my door swung open, a man came in through the open door round my bed and leant over me grabbing Both my shoulders and my neck and holding me down. At this point i was no longer looking at myself, instead i was back in myself and looking up at this man holding me down. When he came in he did not walk, he hovered and moved exceptionally fast. I don't know exactly what he was wearing, the only way i can explain it was he was dressed like a cardinal with a red/black cloak on and that white collar thing that priests were around their neck.

I knew my family was still in the lounge room and my door was now open, i tried to scream but nothing would come out, I knew how to scream i just couldn't. I was freaking out as i couldn't understand why my family did nothing.

i tried to push him off but he was too strong and had me pinned. all this happend over just a few seconds. I looked up at his face and noticed this was no man, his eyes were pitch black with a blood red ellipse in them. He then spoke in an evil/angry manner, telling me that i MUST stop researching the catholic church and how Satan is in the Roman Catholic Church. He warned me of the evil to come upon me if i continued to read this. By now i was still trying to get away, but his grasp was getting stonger.


posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 06:33 AM
Finally for some strange reason the kiss of death came into my mind and i managed to push myself up grabbed him and tried to kiss him, he pushed me back down heavily and i awoke. When i awoke i imeediatly sensed something was still in the room, i'm a 22 yr old bloke and i was to scared to get up and turn the light on, i just laid there looking at the dark waiting for it to leave. within the 10 seconds of being awake i noticed i was soaking wet my whole body was covered in sweat, i was shaking and was extremely hot, i tried to say something now awake, and noticed i had no voice, my throat was hurting and was dry as if i had been screaming. i laid there for a few minutes hoping i was still asleep and would wake any time. Of course i was already awake, within a few more minutes i got up, and tuned my light on.

My clothes and bed were both soaking with sweat (nothing else lol). eventually i got the courage and opend my door as if i was about to attack someone, no one was there, i went up to bathroom switched on the light and noticed that i had 'Strangle' marks across my throat, i also Clearly had Deep Red Marks of where his fingers and hands had held my shoulders down.

Why did i dream this?

How did i awake soaking wet with Brusises and Strangle marks on my Neck and both shoulders? (I have only two hands lol, its not possible i did this in my sleep without waking up)

And more importantly, who was this person? a spirit, a demon???

In one way possibly he was helping me and warning me not to go down a path against the Church, in another way he was just as easily confirming everything i had read and was trying to stop me from going to deep into this.

Anyhow, i clearly had the image of him stuck in my head, Within a few days i remembered who it was, he had the exact resembalance of the so called 'Imposter' of Pope John Paul the IV. The pope who warned that "Satans smoke had enetered the Holy Curch" before being murdered and if you believe conspiracies the church was taken over behind the scenes by the black pope

ANY help Please?

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 06:51 AM
Hi there, First let me say wow sounds like a scary dream!

I feel like you are living the life I had about 2 years ago. I am also 22 and have been raised a christian but never really led a christian life. All through my teenage years I was plagued with nightmares and couldn't get them to stop. I slept with the light on all night up till the age of 17 and was always paranoid the demons and spirits I would dream about would attack me.

Every night I would close the curtains completely so there was not a single gap and clost my wardrobe it was something I did every night. One night I had a dream that a tall dark figure with a long black shadowy cloak came from my closet and he had a massive black dog with him. I tried to leave but he grabbed me and held me there it was a long time ago but I think he tried to choke me also. I freaked out and by this stage I was pretty good at waking myself up from dreams I didnt like. Sure enuff I glanced over to see my wardrobe door had been swung open wide...

Things like this happen and it usually is very spiritual. Roman Catholicism is ripe with anti christian teachings and through the years has had it's fair share of a dark past. These spirits may have been stirred up now that they realize you are coming closer too the truth.

All I can say is you are not alone so please don't feel afraid. Just know that Jesus is there with if you want him to be and he will take care of the rest.

By the way. I had a demon exercised from me when I was just 15 years old so I know how real these things are! Feel free to u2u me if you wanna ask any questions

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 07:15 AM
Cool dream. I've often thought that the 'third secret' was about the evil in the Vatican.

BTW, I don't suppose you got a vid or a snap of the marks on your neck.

LOL. Why is it that we never think of getting a video? People remark that they are standing there seeing something paranormal and they even have a camera in their hand but forget to take a vid until it's too late.

(Mantra to self: must take vid, must take vid).

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 08:08 AM
Kill the pope and it will stop...LOL that simple. It may not even be a being at all. It may just be someone in the Vatican who is involved with the dark workings. Someone who has dark abilities and is trying to force you to stop. I don't see why it would matter though? One person revealing a truth that has been kept secret for a very long time...doesn't sound like it would be too much of a threat to the Catholic Church.

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 08:46 AM
reply to post by deadangel23

Uh, dude, it's unlikely to be the Pope. The baddies are probably highly placed subordinates.

It's kind of naive to think that they'd put the bad guy out in the open.


posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 08:56 AM
I don't think they are really all that worried about you telling others as most people have been so completely reduced to automatons that you would simply be wasting your time. trust me i know from experience and i died a little inside when i realized this global delusion was to a disturbingly large level self inflicted. its much more likely they don't want you to tap into the one thing humans have that they fear but thats something thats useless unless it discovered by yourself so just keep at it and stay strong
i also wouldn't assume it was a dream either....

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 06:10 PM
I'm still more of a skeptic when it come to my experience, I would love it to be real, as it shows that there is a lot more to life than we are told, though I would have simply put it down as a bad dream or sleep paralysis, if i hadn't seen the marks on my body.

How else can you tell the difference between a dream, and an actual spirit/demon physically their with you ?

I should probably also add that a few days earlier as i was reading up on all these conspiracies and occult things while at work, lol, I did come across something along the lines of an 'Invocation of the Horned One' I'm guessing that would represent Satan?

Anyway, to me it was crack up, just some kind of rhyming poem. One of my workmates from work is a 'so-called' reborn Christian who reakons that he converted one night after talking in tongues. Theres a few 'you-tube' videos of this and people just look like idiots so we gave him a fair bit of crap about it all. lol.

Anyway we had a couple of beers after work and were watching some of those vids on youtube. Seeing that he was a firm believer, and i was being very immature i decided to bring up the page on the invocation and tried to get him to repeat it out loud, as the page asked. (It also had all this other stuff needed like candles and everything, which we ignored as thought its all a joke anyway). Basically though he refused to do it. It was on my mind still so when i got home, i decided to try it out, after a couple hours of relaxing i got a candle, lit it, and went through everything that it said to do, and tried to take it seriously and 'Believe it' as i read it out.

Apart from getting an enormous shiver up my back (which is probably normal when you work yourself up), nothing happened at all. Just as i put the candle out (it was like 11pm, so it was dark) i heard a voice call my name almost as a harsh whisper. (Its not the first time i thought i heard someone call my name) so i passed it off as my imagination and myself just being worked up a little.

Nothing apart from that seemed to happen, though this was only 3 or 4 before i had my dream.

Could it be related?

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 06:16 PM
YOu got yourself hyped up with reading a bunch of stuff that you already believe in and you scared yourself silly. Kinda like a kid watching a spooky movie before bed.

Detox. Lay off the serious conspiracy reading for a while .
Your bad dreams will go away.

Psychology 101

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 08:29 PM
Intuition is your only guide through the lies and deception at this point. and heres something your not gonna want to hear DEMONS ARE EVERYWHERE AROUND US CONSTANTLY! but they cant be seen unless you open your third eye and they cant go near you as long as your protection is up. nearly all black magic intentionally 'leaked' to the net is designed to give you a flashy little trick and at the same time REMOVE THAT PROTECTION so if you want to drop your natural shields to anything that wants to get you using magic made by others is a great way to lead a short miserable life. if you must use magic you must make it and charge it yourself otherwise you don't know what your tapping into and whats tapping into YOU!

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:23 PM
reply to post by Kazzrip

The being was trying to take you over. I think you know this.

The being is known as a doppleganger. Basicly it's the evil side, from the flip side, type thing. I know this because of the discriptive way you speak of the eyes. Dopplegangers, commonly known as looking as one's self can also take other forms.

You've opened yourself up to something. That being was evil. That being told you the "church" was run by satan. Evil beings lie. It wants you to fall into the confusion state of mind and believe that lie.

Don't take me wrong. I have no love for the churches. However I do know enough to know where satan is working from and what's going on. The church is not evil. The "dark pope" is not an evil pope, it is the last pope. It's a well enough known prophicy.

Hey, don't mean to scare you. However you should know. Doppleganger events are often percurser events to a phyical being, human, with the darkness within, entering into your real phyical life space. They often have an obsessive nature about black holes. This person can often be sent by this evil to try to convert you and sometimes just to kill you.

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:29 PM

A true doppleganger event often is assoicated with awake time visions, but you might not be aware of these.

If you've ever been sitting in a room, reading a book or playing a video game or watching television, and your eyes are not fixed on the doorway.

And if you think you see someone in your family move by the doorway quickly, or other beings, and then when you are expecting your family member to be in one part of the house but it turns out they are in another part of the house, that mostlikely was a doppleganger event.

In waking moments, you might have your eyes fixed somewhere else, and you think you see someone pass by a door way or hallway, but something seems wrong, it is the fact that there is NO SOUND from the passing "person" and also they do float. That's a doppleganger event.

Let me know if you've had any of that stuff happen.

posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 01:10 AM
Besides the eyes what makes you think its a doppleganger? ive never encountered one but from what ive read about them this doesn't seem to fit the behavior and the clothing doesn't match either. i personally have reason to believe the catholic church has been run by satanists for a very long time but i get the feeling this thing wasn't sent by them. very curious indeed

posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 06:45 PM
reply to post by Badge01

why would ther put the bad guy in suclusion then people qwould really question that. Another when I first saw the pope i ammedeatly knew there was something not wrtie with him, just stare into his eyes you'll see

posted on Dec, 5 2007 @ 02:20 AM
reply to post by MrUniverse

this is a very interesting read. could i ask which pope you guys are talking about? this is all news to me. i've had my own theories about the catholic church for a while now. something just doesn't add up with that religion.

posted on Dec, 5 2007 @ 12:15 PM
Well, firstly, you had an OBE... You said that you saw your body lying in bed, did you not? I think one of the posters already mentioned that it seemeed as if someone or something else was trying to enter your body. I tend to agree with that. That is one of the dangers of the OBE; it basically leaves your body vacant.

posted on Dec, 6 2007 @ 11:49 AM
In 1914 Satan was cast from heaven to the earth.

Revelation 12:12

12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short."

1914 marks historically documented changes in Global War,famine,pestilence,disease.....etc

Once cast from heaven he and his angels realized God meant business. They all know they are in the last days. They are angry and afraid. They are trying to get all of earth to disobey God so that none worthy of eternal life will be found at The appointed time of the end. A kind of " If I'm gonna die I'll bring everyone withe me attitude"
They use entertainment,magic,war,nationalism,sex,love of money,drugs......etc to seperate man from God. They generally stay hidden from us for many reasons, one is that many of us wont believe in what we cant see.

2 Corinthians 2:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
The above scripture is very important because it clearly identifies Satan as a God of this system (our system) HE alone is in control He uses the governments and false religion to his advantage because he posseses them. Power here is his to aportion. So false religion is just one of his tools with which he deceives. The catholic church and its founders can be traced to 314 C.E under the administration of Emporer Constantine and from that day of the signing of the Nicene Creed to present day the lies, deception,fabrication and yes accumulated wealth of this particular false Christian church have woven themselves into the entire fabric of Satans World Order. But it is scheduled to end.
You, have done a very dangerous thing. People have been driven insane by demons invited in. You offered yourself as a dwelling space and you MUST approach Jehovah and beg his protection and forgivensess. Then find out Gods plan for the coming Kingdom and choose sides now.
God's list of righteous people is still accepting those with the right heart condition. This is real Your dream is your subconcious trying to understand what is real.......unfortunately the hands on your throat may also be real.

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