That is an excellent find, Kronos!!!
I'm gonna check out that website.
Technology breakthrough harnesses energy from the molecular structure of water, page 1
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Topic started on 10-12-2002 @ 07:58 AM by Kronos
"BOISE, ID - Dec. 5, 2002 - Genesis World Energy, a privately funded consortium created by a group of military and space program research and
development specialists, today unveiled a scientific breakthrough that allows consumers to easily access the energy contained within the hydrogen and
oxygen molecular structure of ordinary water. This scientific breakthrough provides a limitless, low cost and environmentally clean source of energy
that can be implemented with minimal cost and effort. The viability of using water as an energy source, previously a theoretical concept, is now a
reality. "Water has always been the source of life on this planet, now it will also transform the way we create energy." said Charles Shaw,
corporate counsel and spokesperson for Genesis World Energy. "The implications for worldwide energy generation and consumption are nothing less than
staggering." (...)
Genesis World Energy
Genesis World Energy
reply posted on 10-12-2002 @ 12:20 PM by Bout Time
Iceland is already preparing for the day when
petroleum production ceases and the planet needs
an alternative power source. The tiny island is
switching to hydrogen, the most plentiful element
in the universe.
www.theglobeandmail.com...
petroleum production ceases and the planet needs
an alternative power source. The tiny island is
switching to hydrogen, the most plentiful element
in the universe.
www.theglobeandmail.com...
reply posted on 10-12-2002 @ 07:18 PM by Kronos
Originally posted by TheBandit795
But it seems like it violates the first law of thermodynamics...
Yes, but only if will treat that process as a closed system. Probably water is only a kind of transponder and energy is coming to the system from somewhere (ëzero pointí, vacuum etc.). And probably the whole living organisms are able to use similar processes as many cells violate that low silently.
For example there is no good explanation for ë'Breatharianism - Living on Lightí. Light - I donít think so ñ probably on water.
The trick with power from water is based on the resonance electrolyze of standard water without any additives ñ electrolytes. Only instead of alternate current reactor is powered by DC generator (appr 10 ñ 100 kHz, make/brake 1:10) ñ water quickly and silently changes his state, no bubbles.
That story begins with Stephen Chambers and his 'Apparatus for Producing Orthohydrogen and/or Parahydrogen' (US Patent 6126794). Suppressed. Next attempt was made by Stanley Meyer with 'Method for the Production of a Fuel Gas' US Patent 4936961. His company is trying to commercialize patent ñ Xogen.
Xogen press releases (PDF!):
www.tathacus.ca...
and www.tathacus.ca..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow"> www.tathacus.ca...
More sites with water/hydrogen technology:
www.blacklightpower.com...
www.geet.com...
"Hydrogen is NOT an energy source, it merely is a VERY EFFICIENT fuel source" reply posted on 5-1-2003 @ 09:39 PM by Kronos
There many US patented water resonance electrolyze technologies (Stephen Chambers 'Apparatus for Producing Orthohydrogen and/or Parahydrogen' US
Patent 6126794, Stanley Meyer 'Method for the Production of a Fuel Gas' US Patent 4936961)
However it is very easy to check if it works using few cheap elements: two stainless steel plates (1mm distance), square wave generator and TOPFET IC. Frequency out of 10-100kHz range should do the trick. Water silently changes its state to mixture of H and O gases. Plates are cold, no bubbles. It works. Fuel cell technology is well known and proven. The only new element is their membrane.
By the way if you know the resonance frequency of any kind of matter you can broke atomic joints.
The new energy revolution is coming anyway. For preview of first stage look here: GE Distributed Power
However it is very easy to check if it works using few cheap elements: two stainless steel plates (1mm distance), square wave generator and TOPFET IC. Frequency out of 10-100kHz range should do the trick. Water silently changes its state to mixture of H and O gases. Plates are cold, no bubbles. It works. Fuel cell technology is well known and proven. The only new element is their membrane.
By the way if you know the resonance frequency of any kind of matter you can broke atomic joints.
The new energy revolution is coming anyway. For preview of first stage look here: GE Distributed Power
reply posted on 6-3-2003 @ 03:27 PM by chipotle_pickle
Genesis World Energy Watch provides analysis of GWE's claims and business dealings:
members.cox.net...
But just a careful read their site ought to be enough to show that they are full of baloney, leaving the only question if they are a joke or a scam. Just look at this one sentance, from the first paragraph of their page "the technology": www.genesisworldenergy.com...
"As an example, 1000 watts of energy would be consumed to break water down to its molecular state and only 900 watts of usable gas energy would be yielded from the process."
This is some of the most compact silliness ever composed. Watts are not units of energy. You can't do anything with 1000 watts of energy, there is no such thing. 1000 watt-hours of energy, or 1000 watts of power would make sense. But in not one place in their whole site do they use watt-hours for energy. And I love "break water down to its molecular state". When is water not in a molecular state?
members.cox.net...
But just a careful read their site ought to be enough to show that they are full of baloney, leaving the only question if they are a joke or a scam. Just look at this one sentance, from the first paragraph of their page "the technology": www.genesisworldenergy.com...
"As an example, 1000 watts of energy would be consumed to break water down to its molecular state and only 900 watts of usable gas energy would be yielded from the process."
This is some of the most compact silliness ever composed. Watts are not units of energy. You can't do anything with 1000 watts of energy, there is no such thing. 1000 watt-hours of energy, or 1000 watts of power would make sense. But in not one place in their whole site do they use watt-hours for energy. And I love "break water down to its molecular state". When is water not in a molecular state?
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