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[FOX] Evidence Proves Crop Circles Not Manmade

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posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 09:50 AM
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If anybody wants to watch a excellent film with good solid facts about crop circles I suggest watching this video. If you've got a hour to burn and your bored then this should be an interesting watch with many facts to suggest some of the circles are not manmade.

To suggest all crop circles are manmade is ridiculous. Take a look at some of these circles. It would be impossible to make these in one night.

Yes some are fake and some are real. It's easy to spot the fake ones and it's easy to spot the real ones.

Alien Sign...Colin Andrews
video.google.co.uk...

Crop Circle Gallery
www.lucypringle.co.uk...


Look at this circle how could anybody make that in one pitch black night?
www.lucypringle.co.uk...

[edit on 28uWednesday07/27/20 by paul76]




posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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You have OBVIOUSLY not read or studied this phenomenon at all: your statements are nonsense. There is a ream of evidence..scientific evidence, that shows that these crop circles are NOT manmade..at least the vast majority..and the complexity and how fast they are made make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to have been made by people with " GPS units" and string....what foolishness!!

I suggest you Google ' crop circle science ' and rwad for a few hours before making uneducated and silly statements. There is a WEALTH of hard evidence out there that proves beyond any doubt that the majority of the complex circles are NOT man made. And YOU try and make even a crude cricle at night with crude devices and people observing the actions from close by with night vision and cameras..if only opinions were backed by education instead of guesses, this world would be a much better place.



posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:26 AM
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Both Dr Eltjo Haselhoff and Dr Levengood have had research papers published in respected scientific journals.
A large part of the science was actually funded by Laurence Rockefella.
www.bltresearch.com...

Some of my own research has proven a link to Cymatics, this is realized by only a few. I have since found more evidence that correlates with the resonance connection.







www.abovetopsecret.com...

Of course there are people that make these, however many of them report strange events including seeing the orbs, having their work finished for them or replicated, psychic phenomena, time displacement and some feel compelled to create them.
I've had some correspondence with Colin Andrews, he is aware of the cymatic connection, and is also very interested in the human element. He believes the key lies in the human subconscious, I would agree and also state that the message is directed to the human subconscious.
These discoveries have changed my perspective on reality and has led me to some startling insights and greater understanding of the cosmos and our place in it.

So if they are done solely by hoaxers, I am grateful, they've taught me more than anyone could realize. Of course I don't believe so in the slightest, just look at the second last image, it is made up of opposing spirals that would of have to have been done freely and not with ropes and planks, it's far too perfect and just happens to represent a certain frequency it seems.



posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by eyewitness86
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You have OBVIOUSLY not read or studied this phenomenon at all: your statements are nonsense.


Your gullibility is nonsense. Your assumptions are also wrong




There is a ream of evidence..scientific evidence, that shows that these crop circles are NOT manmade..at least the vast majority..and the complexity and how fast they are made make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to have been made by people with " GPS units" and string....what foolishness!!

I agree that all are not man made. Those that arent are caused by natural phenomena.


I suggest you Google ' crop circle science ' and rwad for a few hours before making uneducated and silly statements.


I would suggest you know nothing about what I have or have not looked at
and would also suspect that my statements are a little bit more educated than your rabid ourbursts



There is a WEALTH of hard evidence out there that proves beyond any doubt that the majority of the complex circles are NOT man made. And YOU try and make even a crude cricle at night with crude devices and people observing the actions from close by with night vision and cameras..if only opinions were backed by education instead of guesses, this world would be a much better place.


You really should take your own advice. Your opinions seem based on nothing more than what you have found on this forum and Google rather than actually getting out in the field and doing something.
There is not one single piece of evidence, not one convincing piece of video or photograph proving that Cropcircles are made by anything other than man or natural phenomena. Oh yes, theres the crackpot CGI videos and some videos of birds flying around but please dont tell me you believe them.
Oh by the way, myself and 6 others were responsible for making quite a few cropcircles in Wiltshire in 2005. these were also made with the farmers permission and were made in Rapeseed and Barley fields, so I actually know what can and cant be done.
But dont expect me to tell you how, you go out and actually try, youll be amazed at what can be done between the hours of 10PM and 5.00 AM
So please dont tell me I dont know who and what causes cropcirlces.
Isnt it uncomfortable having your foot in your mouth?



posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by The Todal
Oh but there are other ways too!
Lots can be done these days with hand held GPS Units, rope and various other things


May I ask what other ways? Civilian GPS isn't accurate enough it can vary by 15 metres or more, and ropes are already implied.



I agree that all are not man made. Those that arent are caused by natural phenomena.


Could you show us what you consider to be a natural formation? That's a pretty old argument that many skeptics no longer throw around because it is simply ludicrous, unless your talking about fungus and fairy circles.


Oh by the way, myself and 6 others were responsible for making quite a few cropcircles in Wiltshire in 2005. these were also made with the farmers permission and were made in Rapeseed and Barley fields, so I actually know what can and cant be done.


Really? did it fool anyone or attract any attention? perhaps you can tell us which ones are yours?
2005 crop circles

Oh and just for a laugh this is a Doug and Dave masterpiece.




Most probably after a few too many by the looks of it.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 12:39 PM
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A couple goods crop circle films from Netflix are:

Ultimate Crop Circles: Signs from Space? (there is a long indepth interview with Colin Andews that was great. Be sure to check for the bonus content to find some of this stuff).

Crop Circles: Quest for Truth is another one I enjoyed.



posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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The first thing about the blog entry you cite is that the blogger, and you, in the title suggest that this is a Fox News story, when in fact it is a Fox Entertainment documentary.

Whether or not crop circles are created by aliens or by human geniuses with too much time on their hands, I don't know, but this documentary should not be associated with Fox News.

I'm even reluctant to call much of what is called documentary film, documentary, at all.

It's just entertainment that strings a few facts together with a lot of speculation and a few folks with odd looking electronics walking about commenting on nothing.



posted on Nov, 30 2007 @ 01:33 PM
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Well I was a little reluctant to look at this (I get emails about whats new and just browse the headlines, but today I looked at most of them) and I am glad I didn't pass it over. I found the video good. (I very rarely post on this site, so whenever I do, I try to make them as long as I can
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I kinda stopped giving a # about crop circles awhile ago. I beleive some are man made, but a few are real, what is their purpose? odd act of nature, alien highway signs, it doesn't really matter. No matter how much we read, research I don't think we will agree on what it is until aliens come down and either take credit for the highway signs or they laugh at us for thinking it was them.

As for the video..

Seems a little old but quite informative. It looks like this crop circle could be real, but it oculd also be faked. Someone could have a ton of money to blow, bought a gold, silver and bronze plate, burried it in the earth, then a little while later made the design in the crops.

The plates - They were made of 100 percent pure silver (Gold, and bronze) and I don't know how much it would cost, but I am sure that would cost a lot. So that does seem to make the story seem real. But that does not it is impossible to fake.

(There's a book I'm reading called 'The World's Greatest Hoaxes' By Geoff Tibballs - it even has a picture of a crop circle on the cover) - And after reading the book, I am amazed at the lengths that some people are willing to go to in order to pull off a prank.


What I don't get.

If they are alien in origin, why don't satelites pick anything up? A few years ago I used to think it was possible for a 'Lost World' of Dinosaurs to exist. Then I started realizing that with the common usage of satellites, which can track almost anything, cover islands where people have not been, that that idea seems highly unlikely. So why wouldn't they try to use satelites to look at crop circles?

Crop circles usually appear over night, they are quite common, alot of people research them and spend tones of time looking into whether or not it's fake. I got an idea to prove their origin (This same scenario would work for big Foot) Just go out to a bunch of farms (ask permission from the farmer, or you do it without their knowledge, if you do it without their knowledge then you assure that they didn't figure out a way to manuever around your camera view) And you set up cameras covering their crops. Do this in an area where there are a large number of cro pcircles, and within a year you will eventually either catch a crop circle being made slowly by people on the ground, or see a giant ship hovering above it.

(for the big Foot part of the plan, you slowly mark up a grid in a section of the forest in sets of two aimed at each other. Again, you add more cameras, and eventually you will have enough footage of an entire area of the forest.



posted on Dec, 1 2007 @ 01:37 PM
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"If they are alien in origin, why don't satelites pick anything up?"

You need ask only two questions for this answer. First you have to ask yourself, who owns those satellites? Lastly, do the owner's of those satellites want YOU to know crop circles are real if they indeed are?


And to the natural phenomenon guy, what exactly is natural about symmetrical symbols? How does that happen and how is it more provable than visitors?

I happen to be a firm believer that for every hoax or rumor there is some truth in there, doesn't make me right, just my logic. Just think of the reason for a hoax. It's to fool someone into thinking it's the real deal, right? So the first crop circle ever, assuming they are all fake, was just some guys idea to get people to think aliens did it? How did he even think of that with no real crop circles to base it off? Is there a crop circle hoax guide that keeps most of them the same? Same radiation, plants, be quiet and work with night vision on, leave no prints (finger or foot). It's must be the same guys that can cut a cow between it's cells in the field when modern technology can only do it in a lab until very recently. One things for sure, Call of Duty 4 was not man made, it's just to good. Going to jam on the Box, happy holidays to you all and be safe.



posted on Dec, 1 2007 @ 01:58 PM
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There is no way some of the crop circles (actually, majority of them) are man made. Anyone who claims opposite, should be put in the middle of the corn field during cold night and have him draw one before the morning. If he fails to do that, should be fed to the crows.


[edit on 1-12-2007 by Breadfan]



posted on Dec, 1 2007 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by The Todal

Originally posted by eyewitness86
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There is not one single piece of evidence, not one convincing piece of video or photograph proving that Crop circles are made by anything other than man or natural phenomena.




I'm not sure if you're in denial, afraid of things you don't understand, paid, or maybe all of them.
There is plenty of evidence to suggest the phenomenon is real, and something other than human or natural activity. Sure, i agree nature can do symmetry. Just look at snowflakes. Sure, you don't want to underestimate human ingenuity, even with boards and strings. However, there is plenty of evidence that isn't confined to bent nodes and strange chemical compositions. This isn't on the level of finding the perfect snowflake. It's way beyond it. I'd like to know what your definiton of natural is in the context of this subject.
Chances are, if you've made crop circles yourself, then you're within the group of people trying to convince others that it can be done by human hands, and there is nothing to the phenomenon.
The evidence is fairly overwhelming it isn't human or natural. And so the burden of proof is upon you to disprove what is already firmly established as a real phenomenon through scientific study and research. Your arguments provide no explanations, and would crumble in the face of someone that has thoroughly researched and studied this in a professional manner.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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Nonsense, many of the complex ones can certainly be done via planks and ropes and nothing more. One special showed a three person team making a rather complex one. They had a camera covering the entire field, and they did a time lapse, and they finished the entire thing in a few hours. And it was one of the 'complex' ones. In fact, people were claiming this was an amazing one because all the circles, large and small, were divisible by 3. Turns out they were just using the irrigation ditches as a guideline, and they were 6 feet apart from each other. That alone showed that people can read and invent almost anything to fit their theories, and that you most certainly CAN make those complex circles. You don't give human ingenuity enough credit.

The only crop circles I considered 'valid' were those that were small, round or triangular, etc.. in the middle of nowhere.. and where they found positive readings for radiation, etc. Those may well be real.

Until NOW.. I've considered ALL complex ones to be fake. I may have to reassess my stance however, and read a lot more about this particular case. It's very interesting! I'm willing to believe anything if there is firm proof to back it up. And this is quite amazing. If it's a hoax, it's elaborate.

The only thing I'd like to know is: Can anyone verify the lab results? It's easy to say "I got this done in a lab." Where is the papers confirming their findings (if it's a link I missed, someone please point it out). Pictures of plates that could be done with tinfoil for all we know, does not prove anything. I'd love to see the official lab results for the supposed testing.



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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I am tired of this endless debate. "They're real", "They're fake" (repeat 6 million times).

Pass the hat around, get a fund together and place pole-mounted night-vision wide-angle time-lapse cameras (solar charged batteries) on every crop that's ever had a circle (or as many as possible until the money runs out).

We'll catch a few fakers, until they realise the fun has gone out of getting filmed. And who knows what else we'll find. Until "non-human" crop-circlers get filmed in action, we will not ever have a chance of settling this endless debate.

Or do something else that might bring this to a conclusion. Suggestions welcome!



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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The link seems to be dead but it sound the same as what's being discussed in this thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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