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Originally posted by infinite
Still no word from Downing Street.
Brown is meant to be our head of government. He lacks the ability to be Prime Minister. Heck, David Cameron probabyl would of done something by now
Originally posted by planetfall
[where] are those the same muslims who did not take to the streets protesting all the brutality carried out in the name of their religion?
the same ones who failed to rise up over the abuses and carnage of women and children under their cultures standards?
might they be, also, the very ones who couldnt find the time to respond to the sectarian murders, violating the alleged muslim brand promise of convert or be killed?
well, if they're not the moderate, good muslims who do not support extremism, okay. but then, where are these mythical creatures?
are they in such small numbers as to be effectively non-existant?
Originally posted by infinite
Still no word from Downing Street.
Brown is meant to be our head of government. He lacks the ability to be Prime Minister. Heck, David Cameron probabyl would of done something by now
The Daily Telegraph called for "at least the recalling of our ambassador to Khartoum and the imposition of sanctions of leading members" of the Sudanese regime.
Her sentence, pronounced on Thursday, will run from her arrest on Sunday, her lawyer said, making no mention of an appeal.
If you want to confront Islam, then you must be truthful and objective, rather than rude and slanderous. Don’t exaggerate or use absolutes. Don’t pretend that all Muslims are bad people, or that everything about Islam is bad.
The key to stopping Islam is education, because the more that is known about this 7th century religion, then the less appeal it has in today’s world. Muslim defenders know this, which is why they hide behind censorship and book banning in the Islamic world and desperate but comical appeals to political correctness and multiculturalism in the West. Muslim organizations, such as CAIR, often use outright falsehood to deceive others.
Non-Muslim Westerners should understand that there is no reason to place Islam above criticism, or Muslims above offense merely on that basis. In fact, there is every reason not to do this. Islamic law poses a threat to nearly every liberal value that the West holds dear.
Learn as much as you can about why Islam is dangerous. Understand its history. Learn how thousands of people can do brutal things each year explicitly in the name of Islam and Allah, while a billion others never seem to be terribly bothered about it.
In short, educate yourself. Then you can educate others. And they can educate others as well.
Write to political leaders. Inform them. Make them accountable for each compromised standard and every freedom lost in the name of appeasement to Islam. Expose the lies and double-standards. Denounce the hypocrisy of Muslim nations.
Speak truthfully. Speak tactfully.
If Islam wins, then civilization loses. But at least we will have gone down swinging.
"The objective of the law was clearly stated, the objective is not to punish but to deter people from committing offences," he said.
Originally posted by planetfall
are those the same muslims who did not take to the streets protesting all the brutality carried out in the name of their religion?
the same ones who failed to rise up over the abuses and carnage of women and children under their cultures standards?
might they be, also, the very ones who couldnt find the time to respond to the sectarian murders, violating the alleged muslim brand promise of convert or be killed?
At the University of Khartoum, an NIF loyalist shot dead a female student who was taking part in a peaceful demonstration against the regime's new administrative and financial policies. A number of impoverished women and children were killed while protesting at the government's destruction of their homes in the unplanned area of Khartoum known as "Dar al-Salaam".
The security forces, the backbone of the regime, carried out systematic harassment of the leaders of the banned women's organisations. This treatment was dealt out to Fatima Ahmed Ibrahim of the SWU, Sarah al-Fadil Mohamed of the Umma Party Women's Bureau, Sarah Nugdallah of the Umma Party, and Rashidah Abd al-Karim, former minister of social affairs and state minister of education in the 1986-89 period of civilian government. Other prominent detainees included Amal Jabrallah, a physician and trade unionist; Thoriyah al-Tuhami, a housewife; and Amira Hassan Mahdi, who was imprisoned for three years. Fatima al-Ginaid was imprisoned with all her children in the remote desert at Shalla prison, Darfur, together with her husband, a trade unionist detained since the coup.
Most notoriously, the security forces took Buthaina Dokah, a nurse at Khartoum Civil Hospital, to a secret detention centre (or "ghost house") and tortured her to the threshold of insanity. The New York-based Fund for Peace reported on 15 May 1992 that "Buthaina was captured in December 1990 ... The security officers gagged her with her bra and strung her up from the ceiling by her hands (behind her back) and feet, and beat her from morning to midnight. She received this abuse for allegedly using a walkie-talkie. Although she was accused of belonging to the Sudanese People's Liberation Movement (SPLM), in fact she was a part-time employee with Chevron Company of Khartoum. After about two months in the ghost house, Buthaina was transferred to Omdurman Prison where she was kept another month before being released. Immediately on her release, Buthaina had a mental breakdown. As of February 1992, she was institutionalised in a psychiatric hospital, where she suffers from hallucinations and paranoid delusions."
Originally posted by II HAL II
news.bbc.co.uk...
Great people.
Universal jihadists demand theological, racial, political and cultural supremacy — Islamic imperialism — over the rest of the world. This conflict is between the divine law of Islam and secular, man-made Western jurisprudence. In Islam, religion and politics are inseparable. The Quran is not only the holy book of Muslims; it is also a political doctrine that clearly spells out how Muslims must deal with non-believers.
Originally posted by Sparky63
I will acknowlege that there are some Muslim leaders who have gone on record against this verdict. There should be more.
Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by Sparky63
I will acknowlege that there are some Muslim leaders who have gone on record against this verdict. There should be more.
Many have gone on television in the UK to protest against this, especially Islamic Human Rights groups. It's nice to see the media is now given voice to moderates within the UK now.
Tehran, 29 Nov. (AKI) - The word 'women' must now be replaced on Iranian state television by 'family', reformist Norouz news agency reports.
In programmes broadcast throughout the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against women last Sunday, Iranian state TV used the world family instead.
In recent weeks, Iran's Centre for the Participation of Women changed its name to the Centre for Family Matters.
At the time of former reformist president, Mohammad Khatami, the centre was set up within the president's office.
Khatami was president of Iran from 1997 to 2005.
Originally posted by planetfall
i wonder how many of them will be targeted and dealt with later, their brothers are watching, make no mistake.
protesting over the treatment of a woman, hmm? well, its a step in the right direction, but could also simply be window dressing....
Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by planetfall
i wonder how many of them will be targeted and dealt with later, their brothers are watching, make no mistake.
protesting over the treatment of a woman, hmm? well, its a step in the right direction, but could also simply be window dressing....
As I said before,
generalising and stereotyping isn't a good thing.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Here's what life in Sudan is like, btw:
Here young, rich Sudanese, wearing ripped jeans and fancy gym shoes, sit outside licking scoops of ice cream as an outdoor air-conditioning system sprays a cooling veil of mist. Around the corner is a new BMW dealership unloading $165,000 cars.
“I tell people you only live this life once,” said Nada Gerais, a saleswoman.
While one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises continues some 600 miles away in Darfur, across Khartoum bridges are being built, office towers are popping up, supermarkets are opening and flatbed trucks hauling plasma TV’s fight their way through thickening traffic.
Originally posted by Sparky63
Originally posted by jsobecky
Here's what life in Sudan is like, btw:
Oh man! I didn't need to see that.....Of course not all sudan is like this.
the caption read: As one of the world’s worst atrocities unfolds in Darfur, some 600 miles to the west, young women enjoy the good life at the Ozone Café in Khartoum, including ice cream and outdoor air-conditioning.
Here young, rich Sudanese, wearing ripped jeans and fancy gym shoes, sit outside licking scoops of ice cream as an outdoor air-conditioning system sprays a cooling veil of mist. Around the corner is a new BMW dealership unloading $165,000 cars.
“I tell people you only live this life once,” said Nada Gerais, a saleswoman.
While one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises continues some 600 miles away in Darfur, across Khartoum bridges are being built, office towers are popping up, supermarkets are opening and flatbed trucks hauling plasma TV’s fight their way through thickening traffic.
www.nytimes.com...
MADNESS!!!!
[edit on 30-11-2007 by Sparky63]