Originally posted by mr-lizard
and also SHE didn't name the teddy, a seven year old child named the teddy.... so stop your muslim bashing and realise that you might just have misheard things....

but SHE is supposed to get the whipping for it. That's part of the reason I labeled it barbaric.

If angry men have gathered outside, then don't blame their religion, they are angry, they are obviously mistranslating the situation and probably don't have access to any decent media there, so no doubt they are getting chinese whispers...

Why not blame their religion for teaching them to get angry over such inconsequential things as the name of a teddy bear, or a cartoon drawing? And what about that poor woman in saudi arabia getting whipped for getting raped? Another example of muslim sharia barbarism.

I don't know if they actually GIVE the people these lashes or if they are merely symbolic.

Oh, and criticize the COUNTRY *not* the religion.

Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
I don't know if they actually GIVE the people these lashes or if they are merely symbolic.

Yes, they do.

They also cut off heads, hands and other body parts as a "symbolic" (and barbaric) gesture towards the crime they feel was committed.

And multiple countries, but same religion. You do the math ...

[edit on 11/26/2007 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by Jim_Kraken
Oh, and criticize the COUNTRY *not* the religion.

It's what I've been trying to say but nobody listens...
More fun to hate a whole bunch of people, kinda like how some people broad-brush all Americans as idiotic flag waving ultra-patriots.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Time to stop apologizing for these muslim's actions and start condemning them for what they are - barbaric.

I have to agree here. Imagine that.

The problem here, as usual, is not any one religion.

It is theocracy. Any government that is ruled by a set of religious ideals will appear barbaric to outsiders.

If the US were truly managed under a Christian theocracy, all the gays would be dead, all the women would be voiceless and pregnant, and to question the holy leaders would get your head bashed in with a rock.

The specific religion in question has nothing to do with this. It is the reliance on theology to run a country that must be condemned.

Originally posted by apc
The problem here, as usual, is not any one religion.

It is theocracy. Any government that is ruled by a set of religious ideals will appear barbaric to outsiders.

If the US were truly managed under a Christian theocracy, all the gays would be dead, all the women would be voiceless and pregnant, and to question the holy leaders would get your head bashed in with a rock.

The specific religion in question has nothing to do with this. It is the reliance on theology to run a country that must be condemned.

You've hit the nail square on the head

Originally posted by apc
The problem here, as usual, is not any one religion.

It is theocracy. Any government that is ruled by a set of religious ideals will appear barbaric to outsiders.

If the US were truly managed under a Christian theocracy, all the gays would be dead, all the women would be voiceless and pregnant, and to question the holy leaders would get your head bashed in with a rock.

The specific religion in question has nothing to do with this. It is the reliance on theology to run a country that must be condemned.

This is exactly the truth. Well said.

The problem here is that there is currently only one major religion with theocracies in place and trying to establish more - islam.

It's totally disingenuous to say that Muslims don't stand up against this kind of cruelty...there are plenty of Muslim civil rights organizations.