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Originally posted by j_kalin
Besides, if they want to come up here and work in the bad jobs, I'll happily move down there and live on the beach...
If that's all we get, the crash will be slower and more complex than the kind of people who predict crashes like to predict. It won't be like falling off a cliff, more like rolling down a rocky hill. There won't be any clear before, during, or after. Most people living during the decline and fall of Rome didn't even know it. We're told to draw a line at the sack of Rome by the Visigoths, but to Romans at the time it was just one event -- the Visigoths came, they milled around, they left, and life went on. After the 1929 stock market crash, respectable voices said it was a temporary adjustment, that the economy was still strong. Only years later, when we knew they were wrong, could we draw a line at 1929.
I suggest we're already in the fall of civilization. In 2004 the price of oil doubled, bankruptcies and foreclosures accelerated, global food stockpiles fell to record lows despite high harvests, an apocalyptic religious cult hacked an election to tighten their control of the world's most powerful country, and we had record numbers of hurricanes and tornadoes -- and a big tsunami to top it off. If every year from here to 2020 is half as eventful, we'll be living in railroad cars, eating grass, and still waiting for the big crash we've been led to expect from watching movies designed to push our emotional buttons and be over in two hours.
Originally posted by plaetorian
reply to post by greensurfer
its just sad what else..-.. im not American I shouldnt even be worried about your situation... but I tell you something. When I lived in the US and I did for 6 years... every single American I met asked me... why everywhere in the world think of us as stupid... well I just couldnt answer ha.... I thought of the US as the greatest country until i got ther.
But hey what the heck... you guys sit back keep doing what you doing cuz you do it very well... and let your gov with their own agendas turn you all prisioners. While everyone is so stupid that dont agree with the other... you government keeps laughing at you. You think they care? They care what you have to say? f€ no my friend they dont give a f# about you, your ideals, freedom, rights,... you dont even realize. Ppl that are not Americans are already complaning why you government is destroying its own country, its own constitution... but the main problem is simple. The American citizens are so not coming along with their thoughts, and what they think and want for their country and that is the main problem, once you have a country that has come together.. think equaly and want the best for the nation, then you go fight your politicians that are taking advantage of how stupid you are. Almost 4000 soldiers dead over oil... the ppl asking for them to come back and Bush freaking laughin at you, and congress on your face.... there thats the answer to why the world think you are stupid. THe last president in Spain that try 1% of what your country is doing was kicked out by the ppl.. the troops... back from the war days after the ppl told the government they wanted them back,... there straight and simple..... the ppl... telling the government what should be done for the best of the nation?? :/ oohhh yeah... Democracy