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Astounding Moon Footage! Did NASA Want You To See This?

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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 05:48 PM
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If the object is static and not a photo glitch or anomaly of some kind then it should show up on picture #3 that Internos posted.

Compare the object to other features on the horizon (distance-wise). measure from the out-crop that appears on the horizon to the right of the object.

It should appear in picture 3, but does not, so either it is not static, or it is an anomaly of some kind.




posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 05:51 PM
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Sherpa, please let me know if these links may be helpful:

www.lpi.usra.edu...
educationforum.ipbhost.com...



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:02 PM
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Thanks internos yes they were helpfull, I get the feeling I have missed the party on the these visor and lens reflections have they been discussed elsewhere on ATS ?



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by internos
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You're right





how can we compare these pictures? Isnt pic.#3 a different astronaut? i dont see the red stripe on his helmet



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:15 PM
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hey internos, that 2nd link was awesome, good find.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Odessy
how can we compare these pictures? Isnt pic.#3 a different astronaut? i dont see the red stripe on his helmet

Hi, Odessy

We were just comparing orientation and reflection on the visor in that strip in order to determine if the reflection could have generated that object in the second photo.



Originally posted by sherpa
reply to post by internos
 


Thanks internos yes they were helpfull, I get the feeling I have missed the party on the these visor and lens reflections have they been discussed elsewhere on ATS ?



I haven't seen before so many examples and comparisons all together. Maybe it has been discussed somewhere before and i've missed it:
interesting, IMHO...



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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:27 PM
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Oh boy. Maybe the authors of the youtube video should try to photograph against the sun a few times and show us the results and all kinds of weird blur and flare. Sheesh



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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Yeah good call I can see the blue in the refracted light now, I'm happy.

I realise the star was yours all along.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
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Oh boy. Maybe the authors of the youtube video should try to photograph against the sun a few times and show us the results and all kinds of weird blur and flare. Sheesh


I've posted it because is the first time that i see it: imho, is interesting but of course i respect your opinion: probably i soon will change my idea about it: but AFTER watching it all, not before.



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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:40 PM
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What about the reflections stuff and the video? Never seen before here



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:52 PM
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Perhaps you can explain the shadow that this lens flaw casts on the surface then?



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:54 PM
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My apologies my post was in reference to the video and images that was what convinced me you have done a good job, thanks.

Are you refering to the points the video is making ?



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Brawk

Perhaps you can explain the shadow that this lens flaw casts on the surface then?


Yeah, and next to it, a jog to the right, there's another tower that looks like it is emitting steam or similar. can you see it?



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by sherpa
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My apologies my post was in reference to the video and images that was what convinced me you have done a good job, thanks.

Are you refering to the points the video is making ?


Yes: i'd like to know your opinion: they seems to make certain points, but maybe it's a random construction with many different angles, different light source positions and so on: am i wrong?
They mentioned this photo..



AS12-46-6765
www.lpi.usra.edu...

and they ask: "Ist this really the sun?"



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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:17 PM
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No I think you are probably right I have not studied it from that angle but I will.

Also it depends on the video makers intent of course when non contiguous film is patched together it can be displayed to suit the means.

It seems a very good example of using lens flare such as had been used to show the early Hoagland glass structure images which have been debunked, I emphasise the early images though.

Other than that I have no other comments to make excepting the fact that I am no expert on visual media as has been demonstrated in the recent posts so these are only opinions.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:28 PM
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Ok you edited your post while I was typing mine.

I would say that it was not the sun having looked at the following image AS12-46-6740 the LEM has spotlights on it I would suggest it is lens flare from that.





posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:38 PM
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Hey there again Internos, Sherpa, how you all be?..... ya know, believe it or not I was just looking at these pics before the "lighting" topic came up.
Last night I swore I saw another "kangaroo" shape in one of the pan shots so I was trying to find it again seeing as there might be two possible "kangaroo" shape type objects now? Was I reading that correctly? Anyways, I thought these were worth holding onto just cuz of the light anomaly (for lack of better term right now). What do you make of it?

AS-12-48-7102


AS-12-48-7101


www.apolloarchive.com...
As usual, I appreciate all the work you all do.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 07:55 PM
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welcome back spikedmilk:

Heck, for a moment i thought it was a cigar shaped object,
but in AS-12-48-7101
are visible the same shapes into a crater: they're definaltely reflections, IMHO.

What do you think?



Originally posted by sherpa
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Ok you edited your post while I was typing mine.

I apologize, i've seen you were already offline so i added the photo



I would say that it was not the sun having looked at the following image AS12-46-6740 the LEM has spotlights on it I would suggest it is lens flare from that.

I agree, the last one makes the point:
unless Nasa claimed that the one in AS12-46-6765 is the Sun, of course


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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 08:07 PM
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I'm sorry mike, I looked at the original animated gif, and based on the fixed horizon, growing moon, etc, this looks to me like a picture being zoomed.

As for what the artifact is in the zoomed image, I have no idea. But as for this being a sequence of frames in a flyover, I have to say that the earth is growing in the image and so this cannot be the case.

That's just my honest assessment. I have no agenda. I'm non-partisan!



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by internos
welcome back spikedmilk:

Heck, for a moment i thought it was a cigar shaped object,
but in AS-12-48-7101
are visible the same shapes into a crater: they're definaltely reflections, IMHO.

What do you think?





Alright, I can see it now, reflections from the lighting rig or whatever their proper nomenclature are...I agree. What do you suppose is causing those 'rays' to break the way they are like further in the background?




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[edit on 27-11-2007 by spikedmilk]



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