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Originally posted by HIFIGUY
You do say he here do you not?

Just for the sake of simplicity – I am not declaring anyone’s gender at all. I should have said he/she because often on forums, you just never know. And I try to never assume. But obviously I was sloppy in that post. It was late, as I recall, and I had a toothache. Not an excuse, merely an explanation for deterring from my usual habits.

and furthermore, Michaelsannie makes a claim of the following:

Originally posted by michaelsannie
i am a half of the whole, in which the whole are as one even in flesh while existing in two bodies. Proof has been given for the eyes of the ones in physical recognition, for their finger prints are the same. And this is in plain language. Please read it well.

So..we have a man and a woman with one flesh and the same fingerprints.

HIFIGUY, I don’t see how you can positively deduce that from the quoted statement.

Even you Queenannie thougth it was a man.

You are assuming that. I didn’t say that and I explained my earlier choice of wording above.

Originally posted by Shawn B.
Its either that or they have a kid together that they think is, its one of the two.

Actually Michaelsannie is annie who thinks she's Michael. Michaelsannie said Michael is Jesus, so that means Annie thinks she's Jesus.

we're all Gods children though so anyone who makes the claim to be the son or daughter of God is actually right.

#1 The father of my child is named Randy. My first husband’s name happens to be Michael and we raised his daughter together but she is technically my step-daughter. But Mike doesn’t get into internet forums. He is an artist and after work all he does is draw and paint – quite well, I must add – and has sold his work. But he only has an e-mail for work purposes. My Mike is not = michaelsannie; this I can say with 99% certainty. And with 100% certainty I can say that neither Mike nor I believe that Jessica (our daughter) is Messiah. Very special, of course, but what child isn’t special in the eyes of their parents?

#2 I, annie, do not think I am ‘Michael.’ ANY Michael.

#3 I, annie, do not think I am Jesus. I know I am not.

#4 Yes, we are all GOD’s children – sons and daughters, respectively.

Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Then Queenannie comes back and says this to me...in regards to Messiah..

'At the present time, it isn't yours to ask nor mine to answer.

Leave it at that. The timetable is determined by GOD alone.'

Well, that’s the truth! What would you have me say?

We have Michaelsannie blowing the horn on incarnate with saying Satan and such, and then telling him that the timeline for the Messiah is wrong,

Well, I myself know that Incarnate is not ‘Michael the archangel’ as he claims to be. That was evident in his very first post. I haven’t got so far as to read any particular time line, however.

Then Michaelsaniie turning around and giving us a separate condition for the timeline,

michaelsannie speaks according to the gospel and the WORD of GOD. This was also evident to me right away.

I know what Queenannie thinks about the Woman messiah with the paps and all but a man has paps too, just not as big. Yes Breasts.

In the New Testament, there are three mentions of 'breast' and there are three mentions of 'paps.'

BREASTS:

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luke 18:13

He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
John 13:25

Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
John 21:20

In ALL three instances of the word 'breast,' it is obviously in reference to a part of the male body; and the original Greek word is:

G4738
stethos
From G2476 (as standing prominently); the (entire external) bosom, that is, chest: - breast.

PAPS:

And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
Luke 11:27

For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
Luke 23:29

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Revelation 1:13

The first two instances are obviously in reference to a part of the female body; and the original Greek word is:

G3149
mastos
From the base of G3145; a (properly female) breast (as if kneaded up): - pap.

From The Free Dictionary:

masto- or mast-
pref.
Breast; mammary gland; nipple: mastectomy.
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[From Greek mastos, breast.]

Men have chests; women have breasts.

Hence..." Breastplate "..laden with stones..the last of which is Jasper, the stone of Benjamin, which has his name written on it, and is also the stone of Jesus Christ.

'Breastplate' as mentioned in Exodus 25:7 is choshen - is a Hebrew word, Strong’s #H2833, which means:

From an unused root probably meaning to contain or sparkle; perhaps a pocket (as holding the Urim and Thummim), or rich (as containing gems), used only of the gorget of the highpriest: - breastplate.

It means more along the lines of a container, like a pocket. The fact that this pocket was located on the torso of the priest is incidental.

The word 'paps' is found one time in the KJV OT:

Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.
Ezekiel 23:21

The Hebrew word translated as 'paps' is:

H7699
shad/shod
Probably from H7736 (in its original sense) contracted; the breast of a woman or animal (as bulging): - breast, pap, teat.

And:

H7736
shud
A primitive root; properly to swell up, that is, figuratively (by implication of insolence) to devastate: - waste.

To swell up. Men’s chests don’t 'swell up.' Women's paps do.

It is simply a matter of accurate objective translation. NOT interpretation but translation. Paps are something women have but men don't!

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BTW, there are two different 'alpha and omega' personages mentioned in Revelation; one male and one female - bridegroom and bride. It's only logical, considering the bible starts with a marriage...it ought to end with the same. The husband/wife allegory is predominant throughout all 66 books of the canon!

I made a presumption when queenannie made a statement about the woman messiah and then out of the blue, a female messiah shows up who wont claim she is at about the same time whose name happens to be michaelsannie.

Has michaelsannie claimed to be Messiah?

Except that queenannie makes reference to michaelsannie being a man.

Let not the debate center upon my lazy choice of generalized pronoun…PLEASE.

The annie that the abortion statements and its irresponsibility was directed at Michaelsannie.

And yet, even so, my own words were totally misrepresented by your statements. At the very least, you could have searched out the thread from which you are getting this and quoted it or linked to it. Just out of courtesy. I remember what I wrote - but you don't.

My apologies for the confusion of the two, but it appears that the evasive nature of statements and such was intended to mislead.

I don’t think anyone is trying to mislead anyone about any of this. At least I am not. The less that is assumed, the less chance there is for misunderstanding.

As for evasiveness – when questions are asked that aren’t yet permitted answers, it does seem to be evasiveness. But it is not.