Originally posted by 123143
I suppose they have their stupid little mini-subs to reach the surface or whatever. I was thinking an EMP would take care of that crap. I hope their arrogant plan backfires on them. Some people only learn the hard way.

Unfortunately, EMP doesn't work under water. As soon as it reaches something conductive, it causes a current to flow through it. That's how it destroys electronic circuits, but is also the reason, why water shields from it.

Originally posted by 123143
I was thinking about the military. They seem awfully certain that the military types will turn on the people. Unless they've programmed them, basic human programming should put the kabash on any plans to use them against us. Not everyone in uniform is a robot.

This is a good point, and i also think, they can only be pushed this far..

On the other hand, look at what the police is already doing.

We can only hope, that after a certain point, they would wake up, and turn the guns around.

But it can also mean, they would simply resort to other means of population control. Like bio or chemical weapons.. Maybe in small amounts, randomly dispersed.

Or are they already doing this, if everything about chemtrails should be believed? Even so it's possible, these are just the experiments, to get the numbers right, and it's gonna be done on a more massive scale at some point.

Originally posted by anhinga
Try catching up to street criminals not in their 'cruisers' and risking innocent people's lives en pursuit.

Nah, why chase some guy on foot when you can chase him in your squad car across four counties, endangering exponentially more people? Besides, it's fun.

While i had some doubts before posting those conversations, i still decided to do so, hoping some of you could help me make sense of it all.

I thought there would be more feedback, especially since many of you were interested to read about it.


I still don't know what to make of it all. I have some theories, but none of them seem to fit perfectly:


1. Someone trying to get information out of it.
The guy posting those videos, could have been just attempting to do almost exactly what i tried to do - get information out of a real freemason.
He might have believed i really was one, especially since he was asking me some questions.

This theory however does not make perfect sense. Why make those videos in the first place? If he had just put one or more false statements into his videos, he could have "blown his cover". On the other hand, he could have put the cover back on, simply by stating, he is not telling the complete truth in the videos, but is mixing fiction and fact, only to confuse even more (which he did mention). The theories mentioned could all have simply been assembled from here, or other similiar sources. But if his videos were very far away from what the real freemasons consider as truth it would not work.

And even if he says he is mixing fact and fiction in his videos, the things he mentioned in our conversation - if only one was incorrect, it would again blow his cover. If i was in his place, i would at this point say, that i was just testing the other person, by trying to see, if they would pick up on it.

This theory could explain why he suddenly dissapeared, together with his videos. He could have thought he got all the confirmation of his theories out of me, he wanted, and might have even gotten scared of me, at the end. (just like i was a bit scared in the process)


2. It could have been just a hoax.
Someone, who does not believe all this, but was attempting to get attention, or even scare people.

This could explain everything, except for why he dissapeared. If he did not believe in it, why get scared and dissapear?

The dissapearance could have been a part of the hoax, however, to make it seem more real.


3. A hoax with a twist.
Maybe he was someone, who really believes all this, but still faked it, in order to make others believe - like people, who believe in UFOs completelly, but think that others should too, so they fake UFO photos or videos, in order to make others believe, while actually believing they're doing them a favour.

In this case, again, he could have believed he stumbeled onto a real freemason, got scared and pulled out.


4. It was real.
He was doing what he was told to do, talking to me on the side. Then he discovered i was pretending, and stopped, or someone else in his organisation figured it out, and stopped him.

Unfortunatelly, this theory does not fit all that well.
First of all, as i mentioned before, the things he said could all have simply been pulled from here.
But if he was real, why dissapear? Even if he found out i was not real, he could still have continued, simply by changing the tactics, and starting feeding me disinformation. Continuing the "mission" (if it was real) should be more important, and leaks can be more usefull, if you controll what's leaking through them, instead of simply plugging them.

Besides, he did not really mention anything that could be considered new information, and could not have been assembled from here + some imagination.


5. A complete disinfo trick by the real "THEM"
Using "our" own theories, to fool us into believing them / confuse us even more, while the reality is something else entirelly.

In this case, there is no need to explain anything, since it all might have been part of the plan.


I can't just blindly believe, it was ALL real. I always analize all the aspects from both sides, to see what theory, if any, fits best.


What do you think?

[edit on 14-12-2007 by deezee]