Originally posted by rapturas
reply to post by ChilledVoodoo
I must say, this has got more positive attention than I could have ever have hoped and am truly enjoying looking into its validity. I have not been too fruitful in my research into the erroneous coordinates for Mt Hermon, as someone has already pointed out, this may be due to continental drift or, the coordinates taken for Mt Hermon maybe from an older map and the Roswell from a newer, who knows? I am for one excited in finding out and I do challenge all those that show interest in this to do research in finding out the truth behind the information conveyed. If you feel that what was said is total bunk, please provide your argument rather than just saying its bunk, that wont help at all.
I thought I asked some good questions. Why would G-d use a Geographic Coordinate Sysytem invented by a Frenchman, Jean Picard in 1667 and use Greenwich as the Prime Meridian? Considering the Frenchman used Paris and it wasn't till the 1800s that Greenwich became universally accepted. So I didn't say it was just bunk and dismiss it, but that does completely throw out the 33 degree and 2012 idea. Without the Coordinate system a good chunk of the idea falls apart.
I'll break it down. I dont disagree with the idea that something happened in Roswell. Something weird did happen, but it is not the end all, be all of weird phenomena.
The MJ-12 documents are highley disputed. A number of historical anachronisms have been found in them. That means a number of the documents have already been proven fraudulent. My opinion is they are either a hoax or disinformation.
There was a real organization formed in the 1940s after the incident in Los Angeles in 1942. It was called the Interplanetary Phenomena Unit which was later absorbed into the Air Force. My feeling is if the MJ-12 documents are disinformation then they are misdirection from the IPU or what happened over LA in 1942. To me what happened over LA is greater than what may or may not happened in Roswell.
Now for Manly P. Hall. I own a number of his books, among them The Secret Teachings of All Ages and The Secret Destiny of America. A couple of things about Hall. He was a genius, but he did not have access to materials found later when he wrote The Secret Teaching of All Ages in 1928. The Dead Sea Scrolls, Canaanite Texts, and numerous Gnostic writings. This mean there are errors. He was also not initiated into Masonry but recieved an honorary 33 degree in 1973. He was deeply influenced by Theosophy, which is filled with errors and fantasy. The man was a genius, but simply did not have information available to him to make accurate analysis. The Phoenix being one them and a connection to the Great Seal.
The Phoenicians, their name comes from the Greek word for Crimson/Tyrian Purple and the dye which was produced by Tyre from a Meditteranean Sea Snail. The Phoenix itself is Egyptian in origin, the Bennu, and the Greeks applied the Crimson name to it because of the supposed Crimson color of the plumage. Sidon was not the capital of Phoenicia. Sidonians were people who lived in Sidon. The Phoenicians had city states just like the ancient Greeks. Sidon and Tyre were the two most powerful, but there were different ones and they all had seperate kings. The Bible goes into some detail about Tyre and Sidon. Byblos was another important city state and where we get the word Biblios, greek for book. So there goes the Phoenican idea.
The Sons of G-d, Bnai Elohim, from Genesis 6 and elsewhere. These arn't simply Malakim or Angels. These are the Seventy Sons by which the nations of Man were numbered from Deuteronomy 32:8. Probably the same Seventy Sons of El mentioned in Canaanite text. The same Sons who were in the Adatel(Assembly of G-d) in the book of Job before the Throne.
The Nephilim are the demigod children of the Bnai Elohim. Gilgamesh, Orion, Perseus, Theseus, Achilles, Alexander the Great according to legend, Minos, Memnon, Aeneas, Helen, Hercules, Cuchulainn would be examples. These are heroic figures not creatures from space. Even Genesis 6 calls them legendary and heroic. They are Epic Heroes and Superhumans. You want to see a modern version simply pick up a Comic Book like Superman or the X-men, the Metahumans of DC Comics and Mutants of Marvel.
I'm not really sure what the original author was trying to do. You cant simply connect information like that, especially faulty information.
I don't represent any society or cabal that has been disturbed by this. I am like other people on ATS. Trying to find the truth with an objective and critical mind. I've made a number of conclusions from information Ive gathered and experiences Ive had over the years.
1. The Phenomena can't be neatly packaged into a sensible plot for a Science Fantasy Space Opera. There's no evil empire or Jedi.
2. The Military knows more than you realize and the Phenomena has more of a connection to the Paranormal and Psychic Phenomena than any nuts and bolts crafts or bodies sitiing in some secret warehouse.
3. Jacques Vallee, Charles Fort, J. Allen Hynek, John Keel, Dean Radin, George P. Hansen, and Carl Jung have come closer to what may be the truth than anyone else in the Public has.
Basically without the Geographic Coordinate Sysytem, Manly P. Hall, and the Phoenicians the theory falls completely apart.
Personally I would go look for information on Hugh Everett who pioneered the Many World's Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics in 1957. The Academics laughed at his dissertation. Modern science at the time was not ready for parallel realities, but he was invited by the Pentagon to work with them and he did so till 1973. In the present his ideas have become mostly accepted and impacted Quantum computing and communications. When you tie that in with Sir Roger Penrose's Quantum Mind and Vallee's interdimensional hypothesis, you get some interesting results. Far more interesting than Mediterranean dyes, bird feathers, and a French Coordinate system.
