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The myth of Hermaphroditus:
The Embodiment of the Struggle to Integrate Both Genders
Androgyny - Image of Wholeness According to the myth of Hermaphroditus, this son of Aphrodite and Hermes was loved by the maiden Salmacis, but did not return her love. In an effort to make love to him, she embraced him with such passion that the two became one, and that is how s/he came to have two genders.
It's interesting to note that this myth repeats itself in various cultures. In India, the same is said of the god Ardhanarisvara, which is really an aspect of Siva, and is worshipped by gender variants in India. The Indian hermaphrodite is imagined having half his body with male attributes, and the other half with the breast, jewelry, and body curves of a woman. He is literally a blend of Shiva and Parvati, who became one person in a passionate embrace. However, this "mythic monster", in his Indian manifestation, is sometimes perceived as an unhappy marriage between opposites. I've read that, in Indian imagination at least, the male and female aspects of Ardhanari are still two separate identities, and struggle against each other for control of Ardhanari's body. Some people imagine Ardhanari, not as a Two Spirit person, but as literally two being who share one body, perhaps like siamese twins.
All tribes were aware of the existence of two-spirit people, and each still has a name for them. The Dinéh (Navaho) refer to them as nàdleehé one who is ‘transformed’, the Lakota (Sioux) as winkte, the Mohave as alyha, the Zuni as lhamana, the Omaha as mexoga, the Aleut and Kodiak as achnucek, the Zapotec as ira’ muxe, the Cheyenne as he man eh.
This abundance of terms testifies to the familiarity of Native Americans with gender-variant people. For proof of the sacred role they held, and hold, in Native society we again turn to Native sources. Terry Calling Eagle, a Lakota man, recounts: “Winktes have to be born that way. People know that a person is going to become a winkte very early in his life. At about age twelve parents will take him to a ceremony to communicate with past winktes who had power, to verify if it is just a phase or a permanent thing for his lifetime. If the proper vision takes place, and communication with a past winkte is established, then everybody accepts him as a winkte.
Some examples of two-spirited people in history include the accounts by Spanish conquistadors who spotted a two-spirited individual(s) in almost every village they entered in Central America. There are descriptions of two-spirited individuals having strong mystical powers. In one account, raiding soldiers of a rival tribe begin to attack a group of foraging women when they perceive that one of the women, the one that does not run away, is a two-spirit. They halt their attack and retreat after the two-spirit counters them with a stick, determining that the two-spirit will have great power which they will not be able to overcome.
Native people have often been perceived as "warriors," and with the acknowledgment of two-spirit people that romanticized identity becomes broken. In order to justify this new "Indian" identity many explained it away as a “form of social failure, women-men are seen as individuals who are not in a position to adapt themselves to the masculine role prescribed by their culture.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
For those people who believe spirit exists, is it possible for an energy to have two spirits?
op by AD
Certainly an interesting topic for further discussion, just don't ask the Christians, I think you'll get an emphatic no.
Luke 8
30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.
32 And there was there an herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would suffer them to enter into them. And he suffered them.
33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.
Matthew 12
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.
1 Peter 5
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Originally posted by anxietydisorder
A more modern take on this topic would be the Church Of Scientology OT 3 level where the church teaches that we are cluster beings held together by a common incident and that we only perceive ourselves as an individual. This belief holds that one body could be host to 100's of entities. Part of this level is the clearing of engrams associated with the incident that caused the joining of many Thetans.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
But when hundreds or thousands of discarnates unify their energies into a Group Entity - usually on the Fourth Plane for long periods - they can project the persona to some in the flesh that they are only two spirits, or the illusion of being one very powerful spirit.
Mabus
Devils have two angels (souls). One is physical and one is superphysical.
Originally posted by GoToTheLight
It is my belief that "Spirit" / "Soul" whatever is actually a dimensional parasite...and man is merely a host for it...to do its bidding.
Icarus Rising
Not only can a person have more than one spirit in them, spirits can leave a person, and other spirits can come and take up residence.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
Thanks Paul. It is indeed very interesting.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
I am aware of the discarnates. I am also aware of their host ability.
All I can do is keep sending them to the light.
But, sometimes that isn't enough. They come back. Very persistent.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
This may sound strange but with one very heavy energy, I had to bring the light to the energy as it would not go. It took a lot of concentration/effort to do that. I felt quite tired after but refreshed once it had gone.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
If there is a quicker way to send them on so they don't come back, I would love to know how to do it.
Mabus
Devils have two angels (souls). One is physical and one is superphysical.
Originally posted by Thurisaz
A part of me is tired of thinking every energy is a demon or devils but the energy I saw with 2 spirits was not pleasant. Was very threatening, just stare at me. Very hard to ignore. But I sent it on.
The other thing is I have seen light beings and during the time when I could see the heavy ones, I just started sending everything away. One of the light beings went so quickly... so from that I think, if they are light they move on very quickly, if they are not they are difficult.
perhaps that is a way of discerning?