VIDEO: Driver Tased For Asking Why He Was Stopped

Originally posted by Zeta115
Well now I speak from experience when I say that I have
3 years law enforcement experience and I'll try to explain
my viewpoint of this incident.

There were several things went wrong in this incident.

Firstly, the Officers wrongdoings:

1) Law Enforcement Protocols and Procedures do NOT
teach officers to stand directly in front of the drivers'
window as that is the best way to get a head blown off.
He is supposed to stay behind the drivers window
to prevent any harm to the officer.

2) He turned his back to the suspect after he realized this wasn't
going the way he wanted it to.

3) The tasering was appropriate in this case and I'll explain why.
The suspect did not obey the officers verbal commands. He
asked him to raise his hands which he refused. He kept his hands
in his pocket which made the officer feel insecure. On top of that
the suspect started moving back toward the driver's door which
could have been viewed as a threat since the officer had no idea
if the suspect had a gun under the seat. Once he refused to raise
his hands and he started back to the vehicle. The officer was reacting
to the suspect's intentions and movement. The suspect got what he
deserved.

4) The female passenger posed a threat as well when she exited the
vehicle. He should have drew his weapon at that point as his taser's
one shot capacity had already been used. But he only raised his cuffs
at her which wouldn't have done much good if she had a weapon.

5) He did not call for back-up as soon as the guy refused to sign
the citation. That was the sign this stop was not a good one. Before he
asked him to exit the vehicle he should have went back toward his car
and called for assistance. He did things in the wrong order and omitted
some protocols altogether.

6) Once tasered, the officer left him on the side of the road close
to traffic and went back to the vehicle. He could have been hit
by a passing car and the officer would have faced involuntary
manslaughter charges due to negligence. He should have immediately
placed him in the cruiser for safety of the individual.

Even though he made some mistakes in procedure doesn't mean
he did anything illegal NOR did he use excessive force for the
situation. Matter of fact in my opinion he did not use enough
force to control this situation. I would have grabbed the guy and threw
him onto the hood of my cruiser and cuffed his ass before he walked
back toward the vehicle. His hand in his pockets were plenty enough
threat in my opinion to warrant the force.

The driver's wrongdoing:

1) Rule #1, never ever argue with a cop. If you do, you're going to jail
or else you're gonna get the # kicked out of ya before you get there.

2) Be courteous to the officer EVEN if you think he is wrong as that
sort of stuff can be worked out later in court with a lawyer present.

3) He did not follow the commands of the officer. He DID have the right
not to sign the citation. But he DID NOT have the right to disobey his
verbal commands for movement no matter what he thought he didn't
do.

4) The guy was an asshole in my opinion and got what he deserved.

Wow, three whole years.....
You're as bad as the cop with the Tazer, who just wanted an excuse to screw with someone. You police have taken so much Homeland security money you are just more federal storm troopers. Even small town cops think they're SWAT or HR. "You did not follow my commands" "Are you resisting?" This type of Police State crap is gonna backfire. You guys taze because you don't have the ability to talk anymore. I know they taught you in police academy how to get around constitutional rights rather than recognize them.

Just remember folks, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Support armed citizens.

[edit on 6/12/07 by Camar]

Well he's had three more years than you. Dont criticize until you really understand the situation. I see you dont. Also, you cant blame a cop for asking please the first 50 times he asks you.

You act like a radical.

Originally posted by shiman
Well he's had three more years than you. Dont criticize until you really understand the situation. I see you dont. Also, you cant blame a cop for asking please the first 50 times he asks you.

Actually, I do understand the situation, I watched the video, the situation was pretty clear.
Also, one of my degrees is in Criminology, and I did work in Law Enforcement for a time.....it wasn't for me. It's a lot different than it was 25 years ago. Cops these days have a different mindset, not to mention Tazers.



[edit on 6/12/07 by Camar]

Originally posted by Camar

Originally posted by shiman
Well he's had three more years than you. Dont criticize until you really understand the situation. I see you dont. Also, you cant blame a cop for asking please the first 50 times he asks you.

Actually, I do understand the situation, I watched the video, the situation was pretty clear.
Also, one of my degrees is in Criminology, and I did work in Law Enforcement for a time.....it wasn't for me. It's a lot different than it was 25 years ago. Cops these days have a different mindset, not to mention Tazers.



[edit on 6/12/07 by Camar]

If you completely understand it, then you wouldnt be against the cop in the vid, besides, you cant. Some of the vid was cut out, some speech was dround out by the constant sound of passing cars. You dont know what really happened untill you are the cop in the exact same position.