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The Truth, The Story, The Future.

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posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 04:43 PM
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Uhmari,
I asked you where the ruins of these ancient Lyrian cities are? You said something to the effect that there are many, but we dont know about them? Can you provide a link to a website that claims this?




posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by ATSGUY

dude no reincarnation was taken out of the bible way back when the church thought it would give people the idea that they could wast their lives. And we will not be judged by god...you will be judged by yourself ( higher self) the god in you. And it is not just to trust in Jesus he is the role model of what we are all to become...in Christ ( which is a title and not his real name) Christ hood is one of the highest levels of self realization almost like full conscousness.


This is a common new age deception. First the Bible has been unaltered. Many have stated that it was corrupted and so on and then they found the 2000 year old dead sea scrolls. Whoops the wording was virtually identical to the septuagint once translated into greek, which dates from the middle ages. There goes that theory. The New Testament is similar, 24,000 manuscripts all in agreement. The good Lord has taken care of his Word to be sure. That Word of God says this,
Hebrews 9:27.


And because by God's law death comes to men once, and after that they are judged;


As for the doctrine that you can be Gods, that there is no such thing as sin and no judgment, these are all the lies the serpent told Eve. The serpent said to Eve that she would not die if she ate the fruit (no judgment) and that she would become like God. Instead she lost her place in paradise and she and all of her offspring died. It's fascinating that the demons continue to preach this false gospel. I guess they realize how gullible and vain humans are.



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Uhmari
My plejaren friend says the real reason greys are here is for lotion.

Can you please explain what you mean by "lotion" Uhmari. I'm presuming it's some form of nutrition they need. Cheers.



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
This is a common new age deception. First the Bible has been unaltered. Many have stated that it was corrupted and so on and then they found the 2000 year old dead sea scrolls. Whoops the wording was virtually identical to the septuagint once translated into greek, which dates from the middle ages. There goes that theory. The New Testament is similar, 24,000 manuscripts all in agreement. The good Lord has taken care of his Word to be sure.


Yes, those scriptures are the same words.

I do have trouble believing things were exactly the way the people who killed Jesus, and did many things even I do not think is right today, tell me they were.

I find it hard to swallow most of the things any group looking to control my life, tell me. I am not brain washed.

Furthermore, The creation story has many parts missing thus leaving big gaps in that information leaving too much for the imagination. I also take guidance from the Creator, and have found his requests to never be a burden for me. I did Church, studied, and asked God to help me understand the scriptures the way they were meant. It is a much differen't picture than the ones popular religions paint.

Now I see a much bigger picture and I am interested in anything that may shed light on where this World is .ed. Go a., worship the way you want, for now. Be prepared for a change for the positive in your life. Trust in God, where ever that is.



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 09:06 PM
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UHMARI
With such horrible grammar adn spelling not to mention the fact that this all sounds like some delusional fantasy if you believe it, or at best something taken from your MMORPG, I think it's painfully obvious you are just a young guy posting this kind of thing here for a rise or some fun to see what people say back. I'm just tired of reading this kind of crap from what seems like bored teenagers all over this board, I thought this place was supposed to be for intelligent discussion about what we have found through experience, research or other legitimate means, not something that sounds like it came out your ass with nothing to back it up. Just wish I didnt have to waste so much time weeding through topics like yours to get to the real interesting information with actual merit...please put your energy to better use, like studying..or go play outside with your little skateboard..



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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Ok, well who is manning the blockade, the good guys or the bad guys?

I know our Governments speak for us, supposedly. There is still a need for some type of choice in here.

At what point am I alowed to speak for myself?

There is a weak story here. Uhmari, you were so sure in the first post or two, but things have not kept the pace. Are you just giving glimpses, or do you know the whole story?



[edit on 24-11-2007 by win 52]



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders


This is a common new age deception. First the Bible has been unaltered. Many have stated that it was corrupted and so on and then they found the 2000 year old dead sea scrolls. Whoops the wording was virtually identical to the septuagint once translated into greek, which dates from the middle ages. There goes that theory. The New Testament is similar, 24,000 manuscripts all in agreement. The good Lord has taken care of his Word to be sure. That Word of God says this,
Hebrews 9:27.


And because by God's law death comes to men once, and after that they are judged;


As for the doctrine that you can be Gods, that there is no such thing as sin and no judgment, these are all the lies the serpent told Eve. The serpent said to Eve that she would not die if she ate the fruit (no judgment) and that she would become like God. Instead she lost her place in paradise and she and all of her offspring died. It's fascinating that the demons continue to preach this false gospel. I guess they realize how gullible and vain humans are.

Yes that is true that god's law is that MEN die once, the soul is gender less and when a person dies he is judged by himself on how he did in that life.

- cause and effect baby live it and breath it

yes humans are gullible and vain, you are a great example of one



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 09:48 PM
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So you're saying aliens abduct us, so they can cross breed, hybrid, and such.....

Well, what about other people who i tend to think are more credible, say differently...

projectcamelot.org...



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by andre18
So you're saying aliens abduct us, so they can cross breed, hybrid, and such.....

Well, what about other people who i tend to think are more credible, say differently...

projectcamelot.org...


There are many different races, and many different projects going on...Bob dean really has it down to the whole truth. i think it was that in the past good ets try ed to help the government but that stopped when they found out how bad the government was...

and Win is right, its all a game of control and we are the monkeys in the cage!!1If they control us they control this reality...if they have everyone micro chipped than they can control the body/mind so mass consciousness would be on their favor and they will be able to control anything...i think that is what they want



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 10:35 PM
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u got it wrong......bob dean, says the aliens (the greys) are only abducting us, to evolve us, in an ongoing task which has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years....

the OP, sais there here abducting us to help themselves survive and such......



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 01:36 AM
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I agree.


I think here the issue is simply either a) the content of to who this applies do ( as it does not say ) or if our understanding of death, covers this clarification.


I can tell you this.

Jesus was a plejaren, Sent by the leaders of the plejaren people, To open the mind of the world. The truth is that much of religion has changed, and been edited by greys and humans, for personal greed. The world is so corrupt that it has forgotted the true meaning of love.

Lets not pull up religion, I am a very spiritual person, And strongly believe in God, The creator, You name it; Infact, I have seen his light, Twice, And to respond to those experience i offer this phrase:

The light and love of God is so power, so emmense, that is stains my very soul with Love.


I feel that man is just there to take advantage of you, Look at your religion, And see how it tell you to depend your country, And at the same time, Christ himself states "Love one another" Yet are you doing this if you are killing and fighting?

So to that end, I feel that "religion" here, on earth, Is a word applied to the exploitation and minipulation of "faith".



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 01:38 AM
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My gammer may be poor, But it is the only thing you will beable to pick at you mindless zombie, So take your lies, and drama else where. Your words do not scare me. I understand the cosmos, you can kill this shell, But know, I will rebirth to speak more, and even louder then before.



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by andre18
reply to post by ATSGUY
 


u got it wrong......bob dean, says the aliens (the greys) are only abducting us, to evolve us, in an ongoing task which has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years....

the OP, sais there here abducting us to help themselves survive and such......




If this is the case, Then let me ask you some questions for logic.

What reason would they do that for? If you as a person believe that there is other races fighting them, For the sake of humanity, Then would they not all be on the same page, and not be fighting?

=) If they told him this, It was a lie, I assure you, In no way now or ever to my understanding of this race, will they ever want to help humanity.

Further, it is infact truth that the draconin and greys removed 10 helix's from the human genome to control them better, yes that right, terrans actually have 12 genomes, not 2. So if they are trying to evolve humans ,why would they remove their advancements, Or try to contrict and control their abilities. Further, Why would they hide in the shadows with the governments, If they were trying to help us. as for you agents: don't bother embaressing yourself.



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by chris_stibrany
UHMARI
With such horrible grammar adn spelling not to mention the fact that this all sounds like some delusional fantasy if you believe it, or at best something taken from your MMORPG, I think it's painfully obvious you are just a young guy posting this kind of thing here for a rise or some fun to see what people say back. I'm just tired of reading this kind of crap from what seems like bored teenagers all over this board, I thought this place was supposed to be for intelligent discussion about what we have found through experience, research or other legitimate means, not something that sounds like it came out your ass with nothing to back it up. Just wish I didnt have to waste so much time weeding through topics like yours to get to the real interesting information with actual merit...please put your energy to better use, like studying..or go play outside with your little skateboard..



christ, As i have stated, I only play WOW. Which has nothing to do with space, or alien lifeforms. Please post constructive comments.



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 03:25 AM
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I think this thread is useless without any single picture or videos...



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 05:54 AM
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www.timstouse.com...

some of the many google'd topics able to be pulled up

www.violetearth.org.au...
Proof like-wise of the blockade

[edit on 25-11-2007 by Uhmari]



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 07:21 AM
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Uhmari,

If you don't want to discuss religion, why did you waste so much space in here explaining your spirituality? Maybe it was the tone you used in doing so, but once again, I come away with the feeling that you are not sharing information with us, only explaining how you are better than the rest of us. To me, at least it sounds like you are the brainwashed one, not people who subscribe to an organized religion.

Furthermore, I read one of the entire links you posted in one of your next comments last night. It took me less than a minute to find it by googling. How long did it take you? It's the one that describes all the alien races and thier functions. It starts with the Lyrans (or Plejans....whatever) showing up about 350,000 B.C. or so and not the 800,000 years ago that you claim. You might want to read what you are linking to here, before you put it out for everyone to read.

And, last but not least, why, if you are so advanced, are you now insulting people who are asking you questions here? You called someone a Zombie or something ridiculous. Where is all this "LOVE" you are supposed to espouse?

It appears that your "story" was not too well thought out afterall, as you are flip flopping around, like a fish out of water to try and now explain yourself, and you are failing!

Here is a suggestion for you..........go back and read your original post in here. Does it make any sense anymore, even to you, along with your replies to people in here?




posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 07:29 AM
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Oh yeah........I just love this one........you state it is "fact," that the draconians and greys removed 10 helixes from the human genome.

If that is fact........there has got to be proof of this outrageous claim. Soooooooooo, where is it?

Just like the rest of what you say, you have none.

So now you are not only a spiritual guru, you are a scientist, too?



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by andre18
reply to post by ATSGUY
 


u got it wrong......bob dean, says the aliens (the greys) are only abducting us, to evolve us, in an ongoing task which has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years....

the OP, sais there here abducting us to help themselves survive and such......



i dont think i ever heard him say they were grays, he himself was abducted and i think his wife was too by good ets. Also there cant be an evil gray race, thats like saying everyone on the planet is racist or part of the kkk...there are diffrenct groups of every race probabaly, one for good , other for evil.



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Enthralled Fan
Just like the rest of what you say, you have none.


You post in Sleeper's thread regularly, and he has no proof either. What are you complaining about?



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