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The Truth, The Story, The Future.

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posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 04:21 PM
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OK - bit of a coincidence but...

I have just finished reading a book I borrowed from a friend who recommended it to me last week called "Nothing in this Book is True, but its Exactly how things are" by Bob Frisell.

He talks about alot of things in his book, the greys, crop circles, philidelphia experiment, 2012 prophecy, ufos, dimensions, conciousness changes etc basically some of what the op was talking about.

For me it wraps up all that I have been reading on ATS in a tidy friendly (and dare I say believable) way and also offers a positive spin on 2012 rather than the depressing "run for the hills we all gunna die" ones that are being suggested. He also says that we can do something about this 2012 shift, which will make it a better ride for all.

What are your views on this?




posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 05:08 PM
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where do I start.

the fact that I just have to have a feeling about something so I look it up e.g.
It all started with a passion about Atlantis for no reason, I had never heard of this place. This was 15 yrs ago.

More recently dreams of volcanoes so I looked it up and find there's an increase in volcanic activity resulting in excessive carbon emmissions contributing to polar melting. looked this up just so happens this happens every 10,000 yrs which happens to be the solar cycle of the Mayan calender. Found out a while back my partner of 5 years had a soul reading 10 yrs back where she was told she was from Plaedies which seems to be all the talk now which connects many other topics.
Kept having dreams about Mars not so long ago and find just a month ago there was a global storm the result of a polar shift and the shift of surface dust has revealed some interesting sites which is currently being discussed in another thread.
I had this big thing about our Sun which I have researched and found some astonishing facts through the study of qauntum physics that prooves how everything is created from light and vibration on a scientific level where I also found out that we are due for a solar flare that is projected towards the Earth in Dec. 21 2012 (ring any bells) and with our magnetic field almost gone by then from the result of the polar caps melting.

There's so many more so called coincidences I could go on but I won't.
But what I can say for sure is that something going to happen.



posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 05:55 PM
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I think you have mixed some truth with some fantasy.

The lyrians did infact come here, around 800,000 years ago.
Around 200,000 years after, a war began.


The following website is fantasy and I think you must have read it and took it for truth.


The Realms of Anterra is a Neverwinter Nights 2 persistent multiplayer world. The setting of the server is an original creation of its makers, set in a low magic medieval style fantasy world. Its main goal is to provide a meaningful role-playing environment and progressive storylines that will keep shaping the server.


anterra.rper.org...


Back to the story though.


This part is true, it is a story cleverly weaved around some truths.

Now, I am going to lock up my lotion. Oh, but, greys can float through windows can’t they?

“With a knick knack patty whack give the dog a bone.”



posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Uhmari
I am now writing to all of you to bare witness to all of the things that have transpired...


in this 'constellation' we spell it 'bear witness'


Around 800,000 years ago, A race colonized Earth. This race came from a constellation known as lyra. They were / are called the lyrians.


how did they know what constellation they were in? you mean they were from planets from all the stars that formed an imaginary shape from the viewpoint of some planet far away from those stars? like earth sees the big dipper? (would people from that constellation be called bigdippians?)


For around 190-200,000 years they lived here in peace, With technology ect. Then, A small dispute between the lyrian race, and the alpha draconin race transgressed. For the next 670,000 years ( give or take, up to today )


the radiation from all that technological activity might have easily been detected by our earliest radio astronomers, since thats how far back in time is regularly observed... i wonder why they havent found any radio transmissions or anything...


One of these races, The plejaren ( known as pleiadians, whos planet is around 80 light years behind the pleiadian starcluster ) Came here, And through the history of earth, Sought to change the state of mind, To raise the conciousness, And help this planet rid itself of the dark owners, Who sought only to take advantage of its occupants. this would be done by, as stated, Raising the concious level of the planets people, thus removing the lies, and with it, the people who lie ( draconin/ zeta ), After many many years, they send a person, A very special person, A teacher, To this world, To help remove the evil from this planet, And war of upcomming events. Some listed, But the truth is that the zeta's Have twisted the truth into a false teaching, known as religion.


removing evil? like exterminators? how can there be good without evil? remove the evil, remove the good.


Now, something unique has taken place. Elder races of light have come, To help the human race. As something very special is about to take place. This universe is changing. It will soon lose its 3 dimentional hold, And the 3rd dimention will move to higher planes, The 4th and even 5th dimention.


the entire universe, hmmm? all at once? that would take a great deal of detectable energy, and to lose an entire dimension? what will be come of the first and second, i'm to wonder...


But it cannot be done easily. The planets conciousness must be raised to do this, So a battle is going to take place of this.


consciousness is merely a biological chemical device, and for humans to be any more 'conscious' than they are now would make them even less stable, harmonious and predictable. its a survival mechanism, our chronic state of semi-consciousness. it helps avoid madness so we can function (raise our families, pay the bills, invent things, etc...)


Not to long ago, a large explosion happend in their home system, mutating their dna. They cannot reproduce, and have issues eating, as well as a few other things. They are trying to create a hybrid race, To save their species. You see, The soul is a unique thing. a soul form a human, cannot move to another species, unless it has entered a hybrid body ( dont ask me to explain that, I barely understand it ). But, but creating a hybrid race, the came reincarnate ( yes thats right, ITs real fokes, YOu dont die, Bodies are just a stage! ) into the hybrid race, And continue on...


explosion? where and in what direction, telescopes can be trained on those coordinates for analysis. and why are they so secretive about it? they're humans, why not simply pop in and plead their case? they've not heard of the u.n.?

when we die, we do indeed die. our soul may still exist, but our souls have nothing to do with our personalities/memories/etc...

interesting story though... sort of tolkein meets hubbard... really, people, if aliens are telling you this stuf while you're out of body or whatever, they are making sport of you with these wild stories... its cruel, really, if you think about it.



posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Uhmari
Ok, I was going to delete this threat, due to the skeptic's. The purpose i am here to help people understand, not to argue. Hence yet again, Your choice to choose to believe or not.

you gotta admit, its a pretty wild claim, you can understand our incredulity, i'm certain.

The lyrians did infact come here, around 800,000 years ago.
Around 200,000 years after, a war began. At this point, There was about 27 or 28 species on the planet, plus lyrians ( total of 29 )

the fossil record would have confirmed this, did they come here without the benefit of hardware? they didnt just beam in, did they? an entire population? did they have bones? were they carbon based? did they bury their dead? did they use tools? weaponry? there would be some sort of evidence left behind...


Around the time the conflict started the draconin's were discoverd in their plans to take the planet and launch an invasion on the lyrian people. The lyrians reacted by launching a weapon into the atmosphere of the planet, that would kill the draconins. This is why you do not see them, but hear rumors of them deep with in underground bases. The air there is stale, And free of this agent. Technology there will allow them to recycle it, and live there, with in large bases. This is why they do not serface, its toxic to them, though they claim " they let humans stay up here ".

they're here and underground? using technology that wont show up in seismic analysis? or emitting any detectable em radiation?

Shortly after this, Conflict in space broke out, battles in this system, and other sorts of thing occured. Earths moon, Probeus and titan are all artificial moons. they were brought here, with very advanced technology by the lyrian people. A base was constructed on mars also, The cynonia plutopia ( the face on mars ). Its very large. The draconin recently took this, in an agressive move to push up their time table, in the invasion of earth. Back to the story though.

indeed.

shortly after the conflicts started, a very large engagement was fought here, many many ships, however though, The lyrian people had to few ships to spare, even risking their space, to retact this area, and protect earth and the vision they had for it ( a homeworld for all races, in the universe ) they lost the engagement, The draconin leaders were granted control of the area, and the planet. The draconin Then went through a long phase of mutating the human race. They removed 10 helix's from the human genome, leaving terrans with the double helix they now posses, though, they dident remove it, they simply broke it up, leaving the key things they needed to control the terrans easily. A human, an indvidual can reconnect them, throught telepathic and physical control, enable all of their prior telepathic, telekenetic, and procognant abilities. This is why some of the planets population has these abilities and others do not. it seems, nature has corrected this change with in the species, and the helix's are constructing themselves.

this isnt nearly entertaining a story as any of recorded human history accounts, why would these alien people be so dull and their exploits resemble a young persons sci-fi fantasy book?


Around 350,000 to 400,00 years ago, Another race settles here ( The lu / Lumari), And found a city that will forever be known to the humans as atlantis. A war with them and another breaks out, a weapon is detonated, causing a geological crust shift, destroying the island, the planet resided on, some where in the atlantic ( however, i do believe it has some how managed to migrate north do to planetary activity ( rusty on this part so forgive me if some of it is wrong ).

ah, the atlantis thing, neat and tidy... all that civilization on one li'l ol' island? and nowhere else? our archaeologists must be easily distracted by silly things like dinosaur bones and cellular fossils from 250 million years ago... how'd they miss our friends from space?


Some time passes, the mezo empire is formed, zeta's and draconin have encounters with them, as well as many other races though history, Exploiting them for what ever they need or wanted. Mayan's had a very close relationship with the draconin, infact, The demon the mayan prophecy speaks of, is draconin. During that age, there was many pictures of draconins place on the mayan temples, as well as other places in the world. Dragons and the myth of dragon people are part of almost, if not all cultures on this world.. Where do you think that came from? did they just imagine that all up? I think not.

make it up? humans? why, they're the most unimaginative creatures ever... dragon people are obviously way beyond the capabilities of humans to think of... the dullards.

during 1981 and 1982 a mass of spirits is released for reincarnation into this world, as terran people. ( human spirits are all compatable, however, the lyrian people i think are unable to reincarnate, not that they need to now that they are beings of energy, point being they are call reincarnate here) the first wave was sent. The fleet arrives, And now.


well, i cant wait for 2012... i hope the good guys win. of course, there was a lot of to do about the lst doomsday date (win2k, anyone?)and the one before that, and the one before that, and so on, etc...

i guess our regular ol' day to day existence isnt exciting enough for some of us, eh?



posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 11:53 PM
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Planet, Say hi to Vaniol to me, will you?
Also, With that, you are now added to my ignore, Understand this is not because of the lack of physical evidence on my part, Of that i do not worry as it will resolve itself in time, however, For the lack of mental ability, and stupiding serving a species that only wishes to control and exploit you.

[edit on 26-11-2007 by Uhmari]



posted on Nov, 26 2007 @ 11:55 PM
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Seriously people....

Topics like this really demeans this site.

In all honesty to the thread starter. If you really believe what you are saying I suggest you seek help from a mental health professional....

You sound delusional and a little paranoid and centred upon you own ego...

At least some of the other " alien war is upon us" thread starters give references( though dodgy) to their ramblings.

Cheers buddy I hope you get better soon



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by Uhmari
best part is to start at the begging.

In the begging, The


The Begging huh? Not once but twice... Impressive...



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 10:30 AM
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So you want to help people of this planet, by spreading the word about the coming conflict, but anyone that disagree's with you and challenges your point of view, your going to put on ignore? How humble of you.

This will probably land me on your ignore list aswell but why dont you try and answer some of those hard questions planetfall asked? Questions like:



explosion? where and in what direction, telescopes can be trained on those coordinates for analysis. and why are they so secretive about it?



the radiation from all that technological activity might have easily been detected by our earliest radio astronomers, since thats how far back in time is regularly observed... i wonder why they havent found any radio transmissions or anything...



they're here and underground? using technology that wont show up in seismic analysis? or emitting any detectable em radiation?


And so on, how about lending some credibility to your case and answering the tough questions that can be verified by what we "humans" call evidence. So far you've answered a few of the psuedo-new age questions but nothing concrete.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 12:05 PM
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For many of the folks here, no amount of proof or evidence will do unless it appears on their precious TELEVISIONS.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by mek12
For many of the folks here, no amount of proof or evidence will do unless it appears on their precious TELEVISIONS.


I can only speak for myself in this matter, the amount of TV I watch is minimal. planetfall asked some very good questions and the OP's flatout refusal to answer should be throwing up red flags in your mind.

If you believe the OP without a shred of credible evidence, than maybe you should be taking a harder look at yourself and your own gullibility, and not those that you precive to be watching too much television.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 12:41 PM
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Do your own research and you can answer this yourself.

Canus Major b.

And who's to say the military has not coverd up such a sight?
It probly was not very large, more like a larger nuke, anything larger then that would of destroyed their entire planet or system. Chances are it could of been something to do with a large solar flare. I am now totally sure, but i think their star started to destablize, and they did something to solidify it and prevent it from exploding, causing a flare, which caused the planet and its population to be damaged.

I placed him on ignore because he unreasonable, He trolls to inslut me, And infact, He is most likely working for the government or zeta / draconin.

I dont mind the questions, But in a respectful manner. I did nothing to respect anyone, and i ask that respect is shown. i am here to help, not argue, This is why i will place people on ignore. Debates are open, and needed. Some sort of level of skeptism is required for the truth to come out.


-uhmari



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 01:47 PM
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Uhmari,

I think you are being a little bit unreasonable here. I don't think anyone is trolling to insult you. As somebody pointed out, the person you put on ignore was asking questions. You just don't like the manner in which he approached it. You never know what you might be missing if you put a person on ignore. Heck, humor the guy and answer. You might even learn something. I for one know I am still struggling with exactly what it is you are trying to relay to us here. I look forward to other people asking questions, just so I can understand more.

You keep on mentioning raising our conciousness and love. How are you showing us you live by what you preach if you are putting people on ignore for asking questions that you don't value?

This is a discussion forum. Last time I checked no question was a dumb question.

My feelings about any message you are trying to relay is that the message I thought you were giving is becoming more meaninless with some of your answers to people here, and your own behavior.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by evanmontegarde
Why hasn't this been moved to Skunk Works yet?

Practical question...


I had to give you a "star" for that post- true moment of pure genius!



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by omnicron
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Oh. Sorry for that. I really thought you were insulting me. Yes I woke up on the wrong side of the bed and found out I'm still stuck on this hell hole we call earth.

Sorry. It was my mistake to expect the worse out of everyone in here.




Thats ok, it happens, sometimes things get lost in translation.



posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by Uhmari
Do your own research and you can answer this yourself.

Its hard to do my own research when you present no sources and no specific details to match your story.



Canus Major b.


Clarify please


And who's to say the military has not coverd up such a sight?

Cover what up? A deep space explosion? How on earth would our military cover up a deep space explosion?



It probly was not very large, more like a larger nuke, anything larger then that would of destroyed their entire planet or system. Chances are it could of been something to do with a large solar flare. I am now totally sure, but i think their star started to destablize, and they did something to solidify it and prevent it from exploding, causing a flare, which caused the planet and its population to be damaged.


So, it was most likely that their star was dying, they found a way to stop it from dying, but it back fired and a flare was sent out and mutated their DNA? Is that what your saying?

Doesnt that contradict the fact that you said it was "a large explosion"?


Debates are open, and needed. Some sort of level of skeptism is required for the truth to come out.


Indeed. Its just to bad you decided to place him on ignore, he seemed to be asking what I would consider pertinant questions.



posted on Nov, 30 2007 @ 12:24 PM
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Uhmari

Thanks for your honest answer.

I know people find it hard to understand I have had communication from the Grand Creator let alone remember it. The thing that bothers me is why this world is so bent against peace.

I also know how to wear spiritual armour and, with help, there is discernment for right and wrong. I sense Uhmari, that you are on the fence about something. What is bothering you, that you need to come here and throw sand around, so to speak?

Your answer lets me know you are not happy with the way things are going for you in your life. You also know much more than you are willing to tell.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 03:02 AM
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Please, Please, Please... I beg. We must put aside the mentality and thought processes of judgment and procrastination for the sake of ourselves. I understand that many of todays world, alot of youth (myself included), have learnt from 'religion' that a set way of thinking and values is not the way as it does not accomodate for the individual's own spiritual beliefs and we see that there are to many holes in that way of thinking. Let me say now that there is abosolutley NO spiritualism in religion any more, if ever (excluding most buddhist philosophy, as it is not a religion in the way that christianity, islam, etc is). The feeling of today is that we do not to give up our minds to any one persons belief of life and the universe. But we all must realize that there are certain 'truths' that simply are and have been for a long time. I can say to all and anyone reading on this topic is that its real, its happening, and its happening now and has been for some time. This is knowledge and information that has been presented to myself in altered states of the conscious mind through sessions with channelers and light workers here on this planet. I have been shown visions and information from one of my spirit guides in these sessions. This is knowledge, simply information that I hold within this being in this lifetime that resonates on levels with myself that words just cannot portrait. It is up to you to 'start your ball of consciousness ' rolling and how. All it requires at first is for you to train your mind to slow the 'chatter', that voice that always wants to over-rise and judge every last little thing, that is the first step but it is a task and takes discipline. Once you are aware of the inner voice, you are able to start to listen and be aware of the inner flow or rythm of life that hold us all together on this conscious planet. Yes that's right folks, the whole planet, and further more this universe has a consciousness to it. You will realize that this 'flow of life' as it is called is everything and holds everything (including us) together. It is simply energy, and by energy all I mean is what is referd to as 'course matter'. The reason I am begging to you ALL is that we have CHOSEN to be here at this time on this planet on some kind of level before coming into existence in this lifetime. It is up to all of us to realize this before it is to late. This is very real, and it includes you. Please do not take what Im saying as my little sop story rave. It is not my rave...Yes take in the information that resonates within you. That is what Im talking about when I say flow of life/energy. It is all part of it. What 'they' have said is that we must all come together in large groups (like millions of people) in congregations in the coming years before the time in discusion and meditate...yes thats right, we must learn if you havnt already , please try to learn and understand what meditation really is, is tuneing into the inner voice, the flow of life. And meditate yourselves into the 'net of light'. For more info on this www.grandmothersspeak.com and go to net of light. Yes, how they have put the website together is abit cheesy but read and try to understand what they are actually talking about. The net of light has been called many things and has been talked about in countless organisations and groups over time. This is our only way that we can challenge and repel what is already here and what is coming. The time is now, not tomorrow, we MAY NOT HAVE A TOMOROW...Yes, its a big thing to take on what a complete stranger is saying, but I am not telling you to drop what you have come to know and understand and sustitute it for my own understandings. Please to not take what I have said as a challenge to your integtrity and intelligence. I am simply putting forward my own knowledge and understanding out there to you in hope that we can learn from each other. please dont take what I have said as a threat or anything like it



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 03:57 AM
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Folks, this comes from the wingmakers new interviews and its in the old as well.This is one of the winmaker web sites related to this subject.

www.lyricus.org...



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 12:57 PM
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the OP's story is true...

the good guys(galactic federation of light) want to help us,we need to ask for help....life,the universe,everything is soo much more amazing than what we have been programmed to see...
www.nibiruancouncil.com...
www.youtube.com...
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