Children herded like cattle into Maryland courthouse for forced vaccinations

geez, and to think, I haven't been vaccinated sicne I was 4, I am 26 now and you know what? I have never had the flu or anything worse than a cold for that matter. I'm glad I am in Canada :-)

oh, I forgot, I did get the chicken pox at the age of 21 when my daughter got it from school......really it wasn't that bad, I scratched and itched and I had sore muscles, kind of felt like what I hear the flu is like though I have never had the flu.

Just to add my own 2 cents here...vaccines do NOT work...I had them all, and also all the childhood diseases, like German Measles (Rubella), Whooping Cough, Chicken Pox (there was no vaccine for that at the time), and Red Measles, and the Mumps too! And yup, I was vaccinated for both of the measles and whooping cough (pertussis), and the mumps, too. I was never vaccinated for small pox, although most of my generation was.
My own kids did not receive them for "religious reasons"- thank you school nurse for all your help there!! I knew they were a crock long before this ever came up in here. Why subject my kids to all those poisons when my own body is hypersensitive now to nearly every chemical known? Nah, I don't think so. I'd at least like my kids to have a "life", instead of what I have to go through each and every day. It stinks.

I tried to keep my kids as poison free as possible. It's up to you of course what you do with your own kids. I just hope you all make intelligent choices too. Oh, and my kids are still very healthy and all are adults now. And since I've rid my own body of the toxins, I haven't had a cold or the flu- or ANY contagious disease in over 5 years-- imagine that! And no, I don't get flu shots, like so many do every year, nor do I avoid sick people. I go about my business like normal folks do.

Have a great holiday season everyone, and please, make INFORMED choices regarding your kids- after all they are the future of our planet.

Peace!
KarmaGurl

[edit on 11/24/2007 by KarmaGurl]

[edit on 11/24/2007 by KarmaGurl]

The thing is that man has survived for about 7 million years or more up until the middle of the 20th century with nary a vaccination. The problem is that people do not want to get sick, they do not want their children to get sick, nobody wants to die or for their loved ones to die, but Nature compensates death from disease organisms evolving to become naturally stronger and more naturally resistant to health threats. So while it would be really sad and tragic for someone to get polio or smallpox, or any number of other diseases, the best news possible is that over time the human body tends to develop defenses against just about everything that is commonly found. For instance, many germs found throughout the United States has the potential to kill were it not for the human body's increased resistance to disease that's been developed over the past 7 million years. It's true that entire populations of humans were either decimated or wiped out entirely by disease that was spread through human migration and exploration. However, these days with dense, sedentary populations all over the world and the fact that man has been practically everywhere where other humans exist, the threat of infectious diseases would seem to naturally trend downward and not up. Anyway, what I'm driving at is that what's driving the push for vaccinations seems to be more towards appeasing and tapping civilization's fears for profit, rather than on necessity and supporting data. It's just my opinion, of course. Sometimes I wonder, though, if cultures and religions that prohibit medical care are mostly right rather than mostly wrong. How strong and healthy would humans be today if not for prescription drugs and vaccinations of the 20th century? The answer is not really clear.

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...I have been following this thread with much, ummm, interest. Forgive me if someone else has beat me to this information as I haven't progressed past p 4 of this thread.

Just a little quick research on the AAP Executive Committee has revealed suggestive ties.....

Quoted from source: ncpeds.org...

"Dr. Tayloe (AAP President Elect) has been one of the architects of the very successful child health system in North Carolina that includes the NC Universal Childhood Vaccine Distribution Program, the physician-directed Medicaid managed care initiative, and the NC Health Choice Program (SCHIP)." "...He is the Board Liaison to the Task Force on Immunizations..."

and, if you visit www.aap.org...,8,International Organizations you can view a little powerpoint presentation that shows that Errol R. Alden, Executive Director of the AAP, participated in a number of International Events of which at least one was directly funded by Wyeth Vaccines, Inc.

I am not suggestiong anything diabolical about either of these people. Obviously they are in the medical field so it would be natural for them to be linked with any sort of medical/pharmaceutical associations. I am simply suggesting that there may be a bias on the part of the AAP which makes their inclusion in this arguement rather moot.

The biomedical problem is that in order
to inoculate such a large number of people,
he "spreader" chosen is mercury, to dilute
the vaccine, and that is the reason for autism
and a variety of other manifestations
depending on individual circumstances.
The heavy thing here, for you guys in
Maryland, is that the story leaked here
in Britain of Tony Blair, our Prime Minister,
choosing to have his children given the
Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine in France,
clearly avoiding the country to whose people
he had announced that medical research had
demonstrated to his satisfaction that there
was no risk involving autism or any other
condition with the (mercury-diluted)MMR
vaccine, (it was Harley Street doctors who
grassed on this conduct to two mothers,
resulting in two sources for the story)

....to sort of circle back to you Maryland guys,
we had a feeling here in Britain of rich people
being able to choose to avoid non-mercury
spread MMR vaccines, which they of course
duly have done, whereas the impression has
come across in this instance that not even
rich people have been given this right to
choose to even that small extent.....never
mind the question of whether it is needed to
start with, but we'll leave that one alone for
the moment....also IN BRITAIN we described
George Bush junior's FIRST ACT - the sanctioning
of ARSENIC being laced into American water
systems......amazing what other countries
say about other countries. Let's start
calling that kind of thing Wrong-Wing, rather than Right-Wing.
Yours truly, Martin Heth, www.phonedupnshutup.com

I don't believe it is forced vaccination. The parents have a choice and that choice is home schooling or moving out of state. It's that simple. People might feel they are being forced but you have to remember our school system is based on socialism. It's ran by the government.

Ok. For anyone who does not know exactly how vaccines work, I will break it down for you.

Vaccines can be developed in four different ways by using:

* Live bacteria or viruses that have been altered so that they cannot cause disease
* Killed bacteria or inactivated viruses
* Toxoids (bacterial toxins that have been made harmless)
* Parts of bacteria or viruses

What happens is that once these are injected into your body your immune system will attack them, and remember what they are. When the real disease comes along, the immune system automatically recognizes it and it will take action to protect you.

Although, as we all know they aren't always effective.

Although vaccines have very high effectiveness rates, they are not completely effective for 100% of the people who receive them. For example, a full series of measles vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from measles, and polio vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from polio.(2) This means that when there is a disease outbreak, the very small number of people for whom the vaccine did not work may still be able to catch the disease. Because almost all of our children are immunized, and only few are not, it can be the case that during an epidemic the majority of cases occur among children who were immunized. However, the fact remains that those who have not received the vaccine are much more likely to catch the disease.

The problem with vaccines is that when you look at the graphs and tables it is hard to tell if the disease is just naturally declining or if the vaccine is really helping to get rid of it. In reality it is both. As time goes on, the people in the area where the disease is rampant will become more and more immune to it. This is due to the ones contracting it living and reproducing, who then have children who are more resistant to the disease. Survival of the fittest as they say. When vaccines come into play, it can give people some resistant, but it seems unlikely that it would be the same amount as someone who naturally contracted it.

The reason people who are vaccinated would still get the disease would be because of the nature of bacteria and viruses. Microbes are just like us. They adapt to their environments. If all the creatures are immune to them, it is only a matter of time until one strain mutates itself enough to become unrecognizable. Once the immune system no longer knows what it is, it can come and wreak havoc once again. Even if people were vaccinated before, it won't matter because the disease is so radically different. If you were ever wondering why you "need" a different flu shot every year, this would be why.


More about the issue at hand though. If people do not want their children vaccinated, then they shouldn't be forced to do it. It seems here in America you can't even raise your children under your own beliefs. I believe that you should be able to not have your children vaccinated if you so choose. All vaccinations do is protect you for a little while...at least until the disease becomes more and more immune to it. So lets thank these people for not creating more resistant bacteria!

www.immunizationinfo.org...

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Great!

You've still got some more work to do here:
No, I will not vaccinate my children!

The lunacy there is making me ill...

reply to post by Beachcoma


I think ill post a bit of it over there. Unless it is against the rules to make a duplicate post like that. Looking over it, there is a lot of misinformation over there.

reply to post by MGauntz


I don't think it's against the rules, after all you're the author of that post. But if in doubt, you could always state that you posted it here before, and link it to this thread.

I think that there is a possibility that the government knows, that will all the new information being discovered on a regular basis, there plans for a world government is very unlikely. The new book by Hougland "Dark Mission" is already in it's fourth printing and is on the best sellers list! I don't think the so-called and SELF-CALLED "elite" planned for people to be so intelligent and open-minded to the truth that is coming out. Who knows what is in these shots. The more pressured and threatened the elite feel, the more chances they will take until it becomes clear that they are the enemy. This mandatory shot is clearly something that only a dictatorship would do. The really disturbing thing is that the children are being targeted. I think they really need to be put in their place. I think it's only a matter of time before the population unites because of things like this. I only wish that it happened because of this. You would think that the people would demand something done now.

Originally posted by ForceMasterWho knows what is in these shots...This mandatory shot is clearly something that only a dictatorship would do. The really disturbing thing is that the children are being targeted....You would think that the people would demand something done now.

Yep, who knows what's in them. Could be viral cells! Oh, what if it's viral cells!?

Only a dictatorship would allow its doctors to give good options to their patients, I agree.

Whoa, dude, you're right. They're targeting children. The sick bastards. Targeting children, and with viruses too!

i havent had a vaccine since grade school and i hardly ever get sick and only had the flue once, yeah, it was a bad flue, off work for a week, but i servived... i'm alive and well. why gamble with my health? sure i hate getting sick but it's what makes us stronger, if your dependent on drugs and then next vaccine doesnt work for you and you get sick you will have a weak emune system.

as for this bieng forced on kids is repulsive, and a crime against humanity!

Dumbing Down America

Originally posted by SpaceBits
i havent had a vaccine since grade school and i hardly ever get sick and only had the flue once, yeah, it was a bad flue, off work for a week, but i servived... i'm alive and well. why gamble with my health? sure i hate getting sick but it's what makes us stronger, if your dependent on drugs and then next vaccine doesnt work for you and you get sick you will have a weak emune system.

as for this bieng forced on kids is repulsive, and a crime against humanity!

Dumbing Down America

Listen, no form of medicine is perfect and vaccines, by nature, will risk giving you the illness. I wouldn't call it "gambling with your health." If the shot gives you symptoms of the sickness then it's essentially the same as catching the sickness. The only difference is one of them has a small chance of giving you symptoms, while the other pretty much guarantees you will get sick.

Being vaccinated is not "being dependent" on drugs, as the active part of a vaccine is precisely the virus as it appears naturally. And until influenza changes its RNA to be completely unstoppable by the human immune system, vaccines will always have at least some effect in preventing illness caused by flu. Unlike antibiotics, vaccines change exactly as the virus does. As long as we can cultivate the virus exactly as it is naturally, we will be able to create some inherent resistance to it.

This does not extend to epidemics as the viruses usually change too quickly for us to create new vaccines.

And no, it's not a crime against humanity. Ignorance and trying to influence medicine without any knowledge of pathogens is a crime against humanity. Starving children and genocide and abusive parents and rapists and sadistic dictators and relationship abuse and torture are crimes against humanity. Helping people fight off diseases, despite its inherent and undeniable risk, is not.

dodgy, I'm with you ... are they sneaking something into the children? I do find it odd that parents wouldn't vaccinate their children? Why is that? Only vaccinations we had were small pox, polio, DPT ... I have heard that some people believe these vaccinations are causing autism. My son was vaccinated against everything but chicken pox, hepatitis B. He had a great case of the chicken pox ... he'll never get it again. The doc said the pox vaccination wouldn't keep him from getting chicken pox when he got older.

My kids are fully vaccinated as well as me and it did not prevent us from catching the ad14 virus.

But there is a great deal to be said in favor of forced vaccinations. Unfortunately they only work in totalitarian regimes.

If they have to force people to do somthing they do not want to do isnt that tyranny???? There is no law requirring vacines.....Somthing stinks.....And yet they allow millions of illegals in with out any kind of shots....

I'm 35 years old. I am fortunate enough to have only stepped one foot into a hospital and that was the emergency room (no emergency) for what I knew was strep throat. I needed antibiotics so I had to wait and see the Doc. I was 22 years old. I am immune to poison ivy and oak. I've never caught it and even went as far to rub them both over my body to see if I would. I never caught it but my friends sure did. haha I am rarely fever sick. When I do get sick, my temp usually hits about 101 degrees for 1 or 2 days then it's normal again. I've been fever sick, maybe, 3 times in the past 10 years. I have had chicken pox as a kid. I may have gotten vaccinations as an infant that I don't remember and I remember as far back as about 3-4 years old. Never had to get a tetnis shot.

The point being is as far as I know, you don't need any vaccination to stay healthy. My girlfriend gets the flu shot once a year. She's already been sick 3 times in 5 months. I think it's in your genes.

Now, on topic, I'm outraged that this took place in Maryland. Anywhere for that matter. I won't be having kids, my girlfriend can not bare children. I've got a friend in Maryland. I'll have to ask her how much it's in the news. If I find out, I'll post what he says about it.

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some think it has to do with a form of hybridization of new humans being born here. the protein enzymes in the vaccines interface with the DNA. Len Horowitz has interesting data on this.