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China Blocks USS Kitty Hawk Carrier from Hong Kong

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posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, U.S. Navy warships should not be making port-of-calls anywhere. Its a legitimate security threat for our own servicemen and women.


Have you ever served in the Military? Tell our service men and women this and they would laugh at you.....like I am.

U.S. Navy ships routinely make port calls in a variety of locations as a means to interact with the people of other countries and to promote regional cooperation and get the Service men and women some R&R.




posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 08:51 PM
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This whole incident smacks of pettiness, but it is mildly amusing. It's like China is saying "We don't like you. We've never liked you. We don't need you." That said, what do you expect? They are communists yeah? It's all show and no substance.



posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 09:43 PM
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The only true way to beat the government / corrupt corporations back into their offices and not on our back as they currently are is to use their game against them.

Examples:

#1 Don't vote on electronic machines that can be rigged for what ever outcome a government paid programmer wants.

#2 Demand that only legal residents can vote. Take away their scam vote by million of illegals that have been swaying the vote.

#3 Don't buy anything made in China. Hard to do? Not really, plenty of things are made in other countries, you just have to look more carefully.

#4 Support the development of the Toroidal Power Unit on overunity.com and destroy the coal, and oil industry along with all the bankers that keep the builderbergs in businesses.

#5 Don't buy anything from companies that farm out all their staff to other countries.

#6 Don't buy foods with HFCS that down the line make you support the pharmaceutical industry when you become type one diabetic.

By NOT supporting the companies with your money, you bankrupt them back into the stone age and they can't do anything when they are broke!!



posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by kdial1
Have you ever served in the Military? Tell our service men and women this and they would laugh at you.....like I am.

U.S. Navy ships routinely make port calls in a variety of locations as a means to interact with the people of other countries and to promote regional cooperation and get the Service men and women some R&R.



Chill, I'm starting to laugh at you now.

It was definitely a stretch for me to say we should not be having port-of-calls. Places like Spain and Austrailia are definitely legit. But other places like Hong Kong, well, let's just say its not 1997 anymore. The terrorist threat being what it is, the fact that port calls equals R&R and "regional cooperation" (why is a military responsible for that?) does not change the fact that our ships and servicemen and women are at high risk each time they're at the port of a non-Western country.

People such as yourself say "Have you forgotten?" I ask you, have you forgotten the USS Cole?



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 12:28 AM
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Then check the "Made in" label on goods you buy at the store and stop buying their stuff.

As I've said in other threads, money talks and BS walks.



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:04 AM
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Well I for one have made a port call to Hong Kong back in 03 while on the USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) We didnt have any problems porting but we did have problems porting in Japan. We were met with anti nuclear anything protesters in little paper made boats and they were sitting around our ship
But in 03 and 05 I made tons of ports calls. Only countries we cant visit now is Thailand and Philippines. Too much terrorist crap going on.

But I dont blame them for rejecting the Kitty Hawk. It has a pretty bad history following it and a bad rep for its crew as well. Drunken sailors, rape, theft, crap of that nature. We come to call it the #ty kitty. I know when I was Japan (Kitty Hawks home port) Regardless of rank you had to be back on the ship by 10pm and being able to live out in town required only if you were married or e-6 and above I think. I dunno about you but being a grown man and being stationed in a nice place like Japan and having be come home every night must suck.

I also know I personally dont like that ship cause in 03 when I was on deployment that ship was to relieve us from deployment but they broke a main engine or something and we had to wait for them to finish. Well we ended up being 9 months on deployment waiting when finally we had another carrier relieve us because the Kitty Hawk was no where to near being finished with its work.

I hope that ship sinks.



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan

If we, the American people had our way then there would be no missles being set up in Eastern Europe.

What missiles are being setup in Eastern Europe?




www.timesonline.co.uk...

www.theglobeandmail.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by kdial1
Have you ever served in the Military? Tell our service men and women this and they would laugh at you.....like I am.

U.S. Navy ships routinely make port calls in a variety of locations as a means to interact with the people of other countries and to promote regional cooperation and get the Service men and women some R&R.



Chill, I'm starting to laugh at you now.

It was definitely a stretch for me to say we should not be having port-of-calls. Places like Spain and Austrailia are definitely legit. But other places like Hong Kong, well, let's just say its not 1997 anymore. The terrorist threat being what it is, the fact that port calls equals R&R and "regional cooperation" (why is a military responsible for that?) does not change the fact that our ships and servicemen and women are at high risk each time they're at the port of a non-Western country.

People such as yourself say "Have you forgotten?" I ask you, have you forgotten the USS Cole?


I have not forgotten and will not forget the Cole
I was on the USS Ashland when a Rocket was fired at us in the port of Jordan. Here is the article: Jordan Attack I am not trying to turn this into a debate, I just strongly agree with what we do in ports....it sucks when you are at sea for month's and any land is great! Not trying to flame anyone I know people have their opinions but I am very Patriotic!



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:18 AM
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Well from the Hong Kong side of things!!

On the news last night were a lot of really unhappy relatives that had made the trip here to meet up with loved ones, wifves and children who aren't going to get to see Daddy or Hubby because of buerocratic wankers.

All of the bar owners in Wan Chai and Lang Kwai Fong are kicking themselves at all the extra booze that is just going to sit there for the next few weeks while they sell it off to get the much needed space back!!

The T-shirt stall owner who was looking forward to having some excellent sales before christmas, he said he was going to get something beautiful for his wife, but I suspect he could perhaps mayhavebeen telling a porky!!

They quoted on the news that when the ships come in it's a 100million HK dollar fuel injection to the local economy.

Cheers then Beijing.

Hong Kong needs Beijing like a fish needs tits.

I really felt for the kids that have come so far and won't get to see Daddy. My old man was Navy and that stuff means a lot to you when you're only 7 or 8 years old.

The petty mindedness of politcians!

Pure Evil the lot of them.

MonKey



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:38 AM
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there must be something behind the surface of the issue.

why China gov did so? to harm the sentiment of those households including the boy missing his father?. just for harming to stir up hostility?. NO! that is stupid!

maybe American officials know the reason best. but they definitely will deny their own duties and make Chinese bear all the guilty just like they always did.

regret for the navy members and relatives for losing a happy thansgiving.



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 12:00 PM
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Suppose foreign military and scientific technology efforts are allowing for close quarters to the US battle fleets abroad. In the case of countries such as China -- rice, fine china, and lead based paint isn't their only modus-operandi. Holding hands with the number two world power Russia may have sparked China's more militarily active actions toward other nations (USA).

Dallas



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by TheoOne
Kitty Hawk full of armed planes, huh...

Damn, what if it's actually a plan to invade China / Capture the Hong Kong?

We'll see....


You have to be kidding right???

It is a normal port of call for the US Navy and has been for quite some time. My carrier stopped there twice. Before and after it was returned to China.

The liberty boat ride back from Hong Kong to the carrier is not that fun after indulging in mass quantities of adult beverages..



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
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U.S. Navy warships should not be making port-of-calls anywhere. Its a legitimate security threat for our own servicemen and women.


Don't mention that to any sailor that has been at see for more than 30 days working a minimum of 12 hours a day 7 days a week. You would have a mutiny on your hands. Can you imagine being at see for 6, 7, 8, 9 months with no port calls? Some people cannot deal with the stress as it is and try to kill themselves by jumping over the sides. The depression that comes from being separated from your loved ones is too hard for some to handle. This time of the year is really rough for those deployed.

As a matter of fact I spent Christmas in Hong Kong one year on a port call. Missed my wife's birthday. Spent my anniversary in Singapore. My birthday underway. And my daughter was born while I was below Australia in the Antartic Ocean. The port calls help to get your mind off of the stress related to separation from family.

China severly punished the local businesses by not allowing CV-63 to stop. Japan is where CV-63 is stationed so the sailors have most likely stopped at Hong Kong recently.



posted on Nov, 23 2007 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by WuTang
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Thank you very much. The best news release I could find regarding those visits came from the Canadian Navy website. HERE. China has sailed east only two times, once in 2000, then again in 2006. They were both goodwill tours, which were escorted the entire way by domestic military vessels (at least in Canada, so I assumed America would as well). They visit Victoria, SD, and Hawaii, among others. The troops go out to socialize with local communities, for example in Victoria they played a goodwill soccer game.


So what is your point ? That you were completely wrong ?



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