Originally posted by Jovi1
They aren't really a cult, so much but a kind of christianity based on a very bad interpretation of the Bible. They get to carry the cult stigma with
them because thier ideas are very much at times out of the Christian norms. As to your brother this is a typical behavior because the rest of your
family isn't JW. So he is going to feel less and less comfortable around you as time goes on. Probably the only way you will ever talk him out of it
is to learn what he believes and use it to argue him out of it. I have seen many reference materials that will teach you how to do just that. Other
than that you will just have to hope he can reason it out himself.
I adhere to the teachings and principles of the Abrahamic Faiths (Talmud, Holy Bible and the Quran).
What the witnesses do to their own members is damaging. Yet, they allow pedophiles to return back as elders. Believe me, I know.
I have a friend, who was disfellowshipped because she started smoking after the untimely death of her parents and then to add insult to injury who
elder sister done some additional harm to her. In the end, instead of the witnesses showing compassion and trying to help her they sent her to the
back of the congregation telling her she was disfellowshipped. She understood that to me an that she was not worthy of G-d. It lowered her
self-esteem, she managed to come to me fortunately, before she took means to end her life. I have had to teach her the true nature of G-d and to let
her know that she was wronged, and that G-d loves the sinner. 'Saints are sinners who keep on trying.' I gave her the poem footprints and had to buy
her another bible, which she loved, as her sister threw hers out.
I care deeply for her like a little sister, but you should see how broken she is by their false interpretation of the scriptures.
We all fall short of His glory, we were told two most important commandments which are shared by the Talmud and the Quran, Love the Lord with all your
heart, all your soul and all your mind, and your neighbour as yourself. Three sects of the Abrahamic faiths share that same philosophy. I know, I read
Besides, where were they when she needed them to comfort her? She turned to smoking to calm her nerves. She is trying really hard to give up smoking
and she only drinks lager. The way I look at it, her sin is not great compared to the elders that have a history of pedophilia. I know a girl, whose
dad was an elder in the JW's and he was forgiven, until he got arrested. I think he has now been taken back into the fold. What gets me is that what
he did is the greater sin worth disfellowshipping, as what he did was a criminal act against children. Yet, his wife still being with him knowing that
he is still doing this sin, goes around and ministers to people like my friend, and she is no doubt one of them that disfellowshipped her over her few
minor sins that are resolvable with help and a great deal of love from friends and family, and those in the know.
My husband is a former JW and although he wasn't disfellowshipped, he said he mights as well be. He said that they put on heirs and graces, but have
their own crosses to bear. Which, I knew already, when people of any religion make out that they are as pure as the driven snow, and have not fallen
short of G-d's good graces they are hypocrites. You can be devout and still fall short of His glory. The important thing is to try and do better, and
just do your best to live a G-dly life without the false pretences.
I find people who minister to other people making out that they don't slip up now and then and are not perfect are liars. Yeshua spent His life
amongst sinners and He loved them. He said he came for the sinners, and in this day and age, it is even harder to walk upright without slipping now
and again, but you know one day that you will be able to walk upright with both feet on the ground, because you have learned from all your slips and
falls, and G-d's love makes us secure in that knowledge. Hence, He requires us to forgive those who wrong us, so that we can be forgiven when we have
So how is it that the witnesses take some pure simple messages from the Lord and apply pressure to their congregation to reach goals that may or may
not be immediately obtainable to the individual. What they need to remember is to remind people that as much as He hates sin, he loves the sinner who
repents and follows Him. He knows that following Him is a narrow but rocky path, but He is there leading the way.
The witnesses due to my lineage have tried to get me to come into their fold. I will not entertain them, as I know that they will be judged. I have
seen their act of christianity to their fellow bretheren, and I don't like it.
They need to learn that the word of G-d is not just the written word, but words of action. Faith without deeds is dead. Hence, their religion is dead,
as they don't carry the deeds to back up the scriptures.
All it took is for those that they chose to disfellowship to have a bit of understanding and help, and most of all love from the other members, they
would know that they teach the gospel correctly.
They are never willing to extend a hand to the suffering. I have never seen a witness extend a hand to a homeless person. I am disabled and even I
find it in my heart to cry for those who are homeless, as I am not in a very good position to help them. Most of them I see are asleep in the street
trying to get out of the cold. If I had my own house, and not a council property, I would help those I could by taking them into my home and the
There are some who are emotionally scarred and that is bad enough for these poor souls. Why don't the witnesses give them blankets and food and learn
what it means to be a christian, by reaching out to the vulnerable and not judge them for their situation.