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Originally posted by Damocles
Originally posted by Grozny07
To go in another direction, I must say, I'm intrigued by Ruger's new SR-9.
was it ruger or smith and wesson that essentially rolled over like a dog for a treat when the govt was on them about changing their sales policies?
i know one of them did and it annoyed me at the time but i cant recall which company it was so i guess im over it lol.
Originally posted by Nailer
I have owned both .45 and 9mm and will take a .45 acp anyday over the 9mm. If you want stopping power the 45 has it
The 1911 .45ACP can take severe punishment and still fire accurately. The original test for the military , buried the gun in mud for x amount of days and when they dug it up ,wiped it off and fired every round in the clip.
many agencies /law enforcement/Government are slowly going back to the 45 ACP becuase of the accuracy and stopping power of the round.
The 9mm round is a high velocity round and does not have the impact force of the 45.
Goddard amply proves the fallacy of "knock-down power" by calculating the heights (and resultant velocities) from which a one pound weight and a ten pound weight must be dropped to equal the momentum of 9mm and .45ACP projectiles at muzzle velocities, respectively. The results are revealing. In order to equal the impact of a 9mm bullet at its muzzle velocity, a one pound weight must be dropped from a height of 5.96 feet, achieving a velocity of 19.6 fps. To equal the impact of a .45ACP bullet, the one pound weight needs a velocity of 27.1 fps and must be dropped from a height of 11.4 feet. A ten pound weight equals the impact of a 9mm bullet when dropped from a height of 0.72 inches (velocity attained is 1.96 fps), and equals the impact of a .45 when dropped from 1.37 inches (achieving a velocity of 2.71 fps).
Originally posted by Retseh
Personally I find the recoil and blast of a .40 noticably less pleasant than a .45, the recoil of a .45 is quite tame (to me), which is to be expected because .45ACP is a low pressure round and the recoil impulse curve is much shallower than that of other major calibers.
As for choosing a platform from which to launch them, the single most important thing for someone making their first purchase is to find a gun that fits their hand. For example, for me personally, a Glock has an unnatural grip angle and an uncomfortable, blocky grip profile. Sig Sauers are just too big for me with the exception of the P232 and the P239. HK USP compacts fir me better than almost anything, and my new Beretta PX4 9mm G Model is a near perfect fit also.
Choose a size first and worry about manufacturer, caliber, and trigger group later, because if the gun doesn't fit your hand, you will never shoot it well.
Originally posted by Damocles
well even though its not my first choice, im likely getting a sig p228 in 9mm in the next few weeks. the sole determining factor is my buddy just got a sig dealership and im getting it for well below retail.
so, as its a quality handgun ill gladly get it though its not my USP lol
Originally posted by Damocles i do know of a guy who had his glock in the small of his back, went to draw it and like a moron put his finger on the trigger and ended up adding a new hole in his rear. yeah sure you can do that with any DA pistol, but having the thumbswitch safety cuts the risk.