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reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 06:09 AM by semperfortis
Why, if we left the middle east alone, would they even care enough to come over?


You are aware that Al-Qaeda is a Fundamentalist Radical Islamic Organization dedicated to ensuring that all people follow in their interpretation of the Quran?

They are totally committed to this ideal as evidenced by their attacks in countries not in Iraq and even those that have capitulated to their current terrorist demands.. Italy, France and Denmark come to mind quickly here.

I fail to understand how some can be so verbal on ATS about how they "Cherish" THEIR freedoms, fighting the patriot act, defending liberalism etc, and with the same breath have no compassion for an Iraqi People that want Democracy..

If you read this, you will see that I defended this stance successfully in a debate and I have some good information there..

War Debate

The Democratically elected government of Iraq deserves a chance to make it. If we leave, their life span will be measured in hours.

They have asked us to stay and help them. As we value our freedom, as we "Proclaim" to all the world the virtue of our system and debate her merits, we develop for ourselves a necessity to stand up and defend what we say. "To Walk the Walk" to coin a favorite phrase of mine.

So I guess I'm kind of like this...

If you don't care about other people being free, the Iraqi People specifically here, then you should stop talking about some one infringing on your freedoms...

It's kind of funny that some of the staunchest libs on here, the ones most vocal about our freedoms and how "caring" they are about other people, are the loudest ones about us leaving Iraq...
I guess country of origin decides value to those libs...

Not so much to me..

Semper



reply posted on 11-1-2008 @ 11:05 PM by semperfortis
reply to post by spacedoubt



Not at all..

HAHAHAHA

The organization Al-Qaeda is root to the Taliban. Both are religious fanatic groups that sprang into existence during the Afghanistan occupation by the former USSR.

It would seem to me anyway, perhaps the experts have other ideas, that when Afghanistan was free from the Soviet Union, they found themselves with a cause and no one to force it on. Of course many that are fighting now are far too young to have been involved, but according to academics, they are the ones that grew up in the refugee camps...

Anyway

Here is some good reading about the subject...

Taliban Origin

Al-Qeada

The thinking among most analysts now is that the "name" is simply a magnet for all disgruntled violence junkies that harbor hate for western ideals and the freedom of democracy..Those that mainly wish to force their religious ideals upon others...

As far as how long do we stay?

I'll answer that with a question...

When someone asks for your help, when do you stop helping them?

My answer is this..."As long as they need it"

Just saying..

Semper
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