Triangle UFO *60 miles north of Bakersfield, CA*, page 17
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reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 03:38 PM by WarrenPiece
reply to post by blondie77



Blondie77, I don't think anyone's goal is to attack you or Diana, but it helps to play devil's advocate when you don't have the luxury of seeing aliens waving through little round windows. You have to remember, there was once a guy on here who said he was from the future...
No one else has the first hand knowledge that you do so speculation is inevitable. It took a lot of guts to do what you both did. Kick @$$ job. But honestly, I'd rather go up against hostile aliens than the press any day so if this ends up on Fox News, be prepared some serious resistance.


reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 05:06 PM by nablator
reply to post by blondie77

After a few hours of watching the long version image by image I don't doubt it's genuine and uncut. There is a perfect continuity that is not obvious at first glance.

Several people mentioned here how the flashing lights are random. Actually they are not! Each of the 5 lights in the perfect V formation (numbered 12356 in a previous post) follows the same pattern of 3 repeated every 2.88 seconds. The light #4 has a different pattern, 4 repeated each 4 seconds or a little more. This frequency is not uncommon for airplanes IMHO, I'm not sure. If someone could find videos of strobe lights used by military jets at night it would be very useful. For reference, the time intervals in the 2 patterns are 2.114 + 0.383 + 0.383 and 2.66 + 0.36 + 0.76 + 0.36.

Playing the devil's advocate, it could be said about the triangular outline, sorry but it isn't visible, there is no evidence of it on the video. The mind can play "connect the dots" tricks to anyone - I would probably swear I saw a giant craft too. So could these lights be 5 planes flying slowly at a safe distance from each other for example while refueling by plane #4 at 20,000 ft or so? They would appear to move slowly and without any sound.

Thanks Blondie77 for a very interesting video. Great thread too!

To Omnicron: please don't insult Orang-utans.


reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 10:31 PM by AkumaStreak
Some things I noticed when watching this again tonight:

1) When they get out of the car quickly, there is a sound that imo sounds like a plane flying overhead; the sound seems too long to be a car passing by at high-speed (notice that some cars driving by later sound more like you would think a car would). Then again maybe this is what a truck going the speed limit would sound like...

2) There is a crazy low sound during that sequence right before she gets of the car that sounds straight out of War of the Worlds (prob. a truck again), hehe.

3) At the end of the video they say that they are looking at a helicopter rather than what they saw before. Perhaps these were helicopters flying in formation. Wouldn't it be awfully hard to shoot a plane, given the minimum forward speed requirements of most planes, at that level of zoom without it jumping around in the frame a lot (I wouldn't know, just brainstorming out loud).

All of this is just speculation clashes the testimony. According to one of them they were even able to see texture on the underside (I remember reading that earlier in the thread) for a moment. Damn if I didn't watch this over and over to try and spot a solid connecting middle. :-/
I'm especially interested in the early part of the footage as far as analysis goes simply because they got freaked out rather quickly (perhaps it was larger here, I can't tell if the other light was just another plane, probably so as it blinks differently) and the part where they say it's spreading out into a large triangle. Also in the beginning they talk about it having red lights around it -- too bad we can't see any of that in the video (yet). :-/



reply posted on 25-11-2007 @ 01:17 AM by telemetry
First off, I just gotta say thanks to the OP and to both of you ladies for bringing this to our attention... and a good work thumbs up goes out to to all of you that have been hard at work on the data end. Much appreciated!

Somehow I'm left scratching my head on this one, the object in question in this footage is eerily reminiscent to a close encounter that a group of friends and I witnessed in the mid '90s. Similar lights, lack of audible propulsion, and frankly... the same genuine emotional reaction. The things that set this apart from all other encounters of this kind is your knowledge and experiences from skydiving, and the sheer length of this footage lends more credibility than your average persons with a camera and a claim.

Here are a few questions, forgive me if they have already been asked or answered.

Near the end of the footage, I hear the camera operator state something to the effect that the battery light is coming on. Video tops out at the better part of 16 minutes, approximately how long after filming ended did you have visual contact with this object(s)?

How was your visibility that night during filming?
Do you recall being able to see stars in the sky? This could maybe help to identify the apparent altitude of the object. Living next door to an air force base I have seen and heard many planes flying in and out of formation in varying conditions. I have a hard time picking out any points of reference in the sky here, but I also don't live where I am blessed with the perpetual Cali smog.

If it was a clear night, and could see some clouds or stars, did you happen to notice any distortion of them as it passed over you? If it was a solid shape (or multiple small objects) did it darken the surrounding areas (background) of clouds or sky?

Did it seem intelligently controlled? Did you get the feeling that it was watching you?

Before this happened to you, what was your stance on UFO's?
I'm not trying to pry, or ask if you believe in extra-terrestrial life... In fact I'm not even going to assume at this point and say what the H you saw was from this earth or not. Do you ever recall witnessing other unidentified flying craft before this occurrence?



Sincerely,
T.


reply posted on 25-11-2007 @ 01:45 AM by telemetry
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
Some things I noticed when watching this again tonight:

2) There is a crazy low sound during that sequence right before she gets of the car that sounds straight out of War of the Worlds (prob. a truck again), hehe. /


Yeah, I've been trying to analyze the audio from the full cut a little more, I'm not sure about the timeline on your first point, can you possibly give a timestamp on it?

On your second point, I heard that also.... it sounded vaguely familiar to me, almost like a war of the worlds kinda low drone, I played it on loop for a few and I think I may have an answer to that, I'm not trying to take away from what you said but it sounds to me that as they were pulling off of the freeway, the car wandered into the "wake up bumps" as they are so called out here.

The wake up bumps are a waffle like indentation that is stamped into asphalt just short of the fog line to aid a sleeping, innatentive (or otherwise) driver to attention. When you hit one of these on the shoulder of the road, your whole car resonates in a very deep tone.... creepy sound indeed. It is possible that is what you are referring to.


From what I can tell, the audio is aligned perfectly with the video.... not to belittle or anything but I don't think anything has been added in post processing here. I've got access to a very elaborate audio editing and playback system, so if anyone out there has any ideas to to approach the sound aspect, I'm all ears.... no pun intended.

Sorry for the quick repost, it's been awhile.




reply posted on 25-11-2007 @ 05:20 AM by funky monk
Originally posted by jainatorres
What exactly IS some 'crazy hovering stealth bomber' and what technology is it using? Thats a pretty extraordinary claim your making..care to enlighten or did you just dream up some StarWars technology without thinking of the implications of that.

We dont have any crazy stealth bombers that hover, and if they do..they're using a completely new understanding of physics no one else has conceived of. Thank you.

[edit on 20-11-2007 by jainatorres]


First of all, Im sorry for not reading the whole thread. I just feel that I have to reply to this uninformed post.
Ok so, I dont know if you really know the whole "anti-grav" thing, so Ill have to explain a little about it.
People like Ralph Ring and Otis Carr but more importantly Nikola Tesla have all been people in the public domain who have dont a lot of research into "anti gravity". Back in the early 1900s Nikola Tesla did a lot of stuff to do with electro-gravetics (sorry bout the spelling), this work was carried on after his death by Otis Carr who worked with Ralph Ring.
Back in the 40s 50s, there was a surge in "anti-gravity" research. This ranged from the governments been involved to private aviation companies and then later to universaties do research. There was a lot of research into this, much of it not in view of the public eye. But there was a lot of money been spent in the area of electro-gravetics and its potential uses apart from "anti-gravity", some of these include what some would call "zero-point" energy. Once you learn to get a hold on the way out universe works then there is a lot you can do with it (aether space - think that how its spelt, someone correct me if I am wrong).
Since then all the fuss over electro-gravitics has died down as has been all quiet - why? If Stan Deyo's book "Cosmic Conspircy" is correct then papers about this reaearch were in full public view and the general public had some idea that "anti-gravity" research was being done (without details been told), (There was a lot of circulation of Stan's book and his interviews in Australia. ) then why havnt we seen any more info about this, one would think that there would be a lot of development in this area since the 50s.
I could go on forever, but if anyone is interested some good sources for "anti-gav" info can be seen on project camelot's interview with Ralph Ring and Stan Deyo's book "The Cosmic Conspiricy" and his interview which can be seen on the media forum here on ats.

Again sorry for spelling and for not reading the thread.

-fm
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