This is the most believable footage I have seen in some time.
1. The length of the video
2. The way the girls spoke of what they were seeing
3. The movement of the craft

I noticed a few different orbs/planes/probes/craft flying toward and away from this object. Thoughts?

It has the look and feel of the Phoenix Lights...minus the excuse of flares!

as i stated, arcturian ships often change shop, color. The larger ships, are sort of cuirsers, who then merge into the mothership. in this game, this morthership is around 360 square miles.

Until 12th minute I could explain this to myself as a military craft and didnt find exciting. But After 12th minute, the change of formation or splitting to two needs an explanation that i can not think of.

[edit on 22-11-2007 by commodore64]

First I would like to say that this is incredible footage.
I totally believe that this is real, might be military or of unknown origin but it really does look like a craft of some kind or many craft, very similar to what I've seen once before.
It was about 4 months ago, when I saw 3 ufos and they too made formations and finally converted into 1 single ufo then left at a very fast speed. I too was scared, so I can understand what you are feeling. The ufos I seen had the classic ufo shape and had lights as well, but were much closer then the ones on this footage. I think this might be the something similar but more of them at much higher altitude perhaps. I live in LA County about 1 and a half hour from were this footage was taken.

By the way this 16 min video is very funny.... It's funny how you guys keep saying "It's a ufo" like 50 times and the f word like 25 times.
And "come take us" And " we're trying to get abducted right now" I didn't have the guts to say that when I seen this things. But it was really funny. it made it hard to focus on the footage the first time I watched it, I was too busy laughing, but great video thanks for posting makes me wish I had a camera when I seen them. I hope I get a second chance one day.

I've fetched the data on November, 13 @ 22:00 ;


The area in question is out of range, again


Anyway, it would be interesting to know the USAF airbases locations,
since its light configuration doesn't look to be a conventional one:
i mean, if it's an aircraft, i think it's a bit unlikely that it took off
from a non military airport, but i could be wrong ...

Does someone knows if this list is complete or if i'm missing something (as usual)?
What about March air base?

Beale AFB
Edwards AFB
Los Angeles AFB * (doesnt seem to have an airport inside)
Travis AFB
Vandenberg AFB



[edit on 22/11/2007 by internos]

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by commodore64
the crucial question is:
how did the object disappear?
sorry if it is answered before.

yeah....oh yeah. it always irks me how really CRUCIAL intelligent questions are not even asked. Threads can go on for 50+ pages before someone actually asks stuff like this.

This question was asked on page 3 ,2nd post,and was answered by Blackburn.
Thanks to Blackburn and Blondie77 for the full video.I'd also like to say I am very sorry for your loss Diane,I truly am.On a happier note,that footage could be valuable as stated before.Try and contact The Discovery channel or something like that about it!



[edit on 22-11-2007 by crowpruitt]

It may be a B2 refueling at low altitude with a KC-10. There may be 2 B-2 in formation under the KC-10.

After watching this video again as I stated in an earlier post(page 3, yes I called it first) this looks very much like a b2 bomber in a pattern for landing. It is the most logical explanation I can think of. The lights seems to match the b2 bomber exactly and the triangle pattern is the underside lights of the aircraft, not the aircraft shapechanging. I could be wrong as I was not there and have never seen a b2 bomber live with my own eyes, only pics and with the number of military bases in the area this seems like a very probable explanation.

As for the skydivers with strobelights on them, could be possible but I doubt it, looks too much like a military aircraft in a circling pattern preparing to land.

[edit on 22-11-2007 by Starwatcher]

Here I am, desperately trying not to get excited about this video. Have we at last got some footage that doesn't scream cgi, hasn't been instantly debunked, and is wonderfully, beautifully understated?

Oh please let it be real!!

Originally posted by Starwatcher
The lights seems to match the b2 bomber exactly and the triangle pattern is the underside lights of the aircraft, not the aircraft shapechanging. I could be wrong as I was not there and have never seen a b2 bomber live with my own eyes

The lights match the B2 exactly?

You say you have never seen one with your own eyes, then I assume you are claiming this because you have seen photos of the B2 light patterns that match the ones on the video exactly, right?

Can you please post photos of the B2 light patterns matching the ones on this video? Thank you.

Originally posted by danx

Originally posted by Starwatcher
The lights seems to match the b2 bomber exactly and the triangle pattern is the underside lights of the aircraft, not the aircraft shapechanging. I could be wrong as I was not there and have never seen a b2 bomber live with my own eyes

The lights match the B2 exactly?

You say you have never seen one with your own eyes, then I assume you are claiming this because you have seen photos of the B2 light patterns that match the ones on the video exactly, right?

Can you please post photos of the B2 light patterns matching the ones on this video? Thank you.

I have seen the B2 up close and personal and have seen formation refueling at low altitudes. I can say for fact that fast blink strobes like you see in this video are similar if not exactly like the multiple strobes used during aerial refueling at night.

The reason for all the lighting is to silhouette the aircraft, refuel boom and receiving receptical on the black airframes. The KC 10 and KC-135 have lots of strobes to help avoid collision during refueling.

This video is not clear enough to discern exactly what they are but it looks a lot like formation refueling at low altitude and then aircraft moving off the tanker and changing light configurations.

It is a great video and may at the very least be evidence of possible classified aircraft and classified refueling maneuver capabilities.

Great Vid girls hope you hang around ATS awhile

[edit on 22-11-2007 by Xeven]

Originally posted by Xeven
I have seen the B2 up close and personal and have seen formation refueling at low altitudes. I can say for fact that fast blink strobes like you see in this video are similar if not exactly like the multiple strobes used during aerial refueling at night.

Again, I must ask for a photo (or video) showing this.

I'm not doubting you personally, but we're trying to establish the origin of this sighting and your word alone just isn't enough.

If we ask people to provide some concrete evidence when they claim to have seen a UFO, then the explanations for the sightings should also be substantiated by the same amount of concrete evidence.

I'm not saying this sighting doesn't have a earthly (and/or common) explanation, but in order to establish that we need some evidence pointing to that explanation, so we can judge and compare them.

Originally posted by danx
I'm not doubting you personally, but we're trying to establish the origin of this sighting and your word alone just isn't enough.

I agree: it's not a matter of having doubts about someone in particular;
besides, the perspective of what we're seeing is UNKNOWN.

This is a close-up taken from the vid:

IMHO, in order to make comparisons with planes' lights configurations we'd need at least some shots taken during nighttime.

Finally the black triangle shape shifting craft makes another appearance.

Some excellent footage here, just a pity a tripod wasnt used to get some good stable zoom ins, never the less this is some nice footage indeed.

The boards have been stagnating for a while but this thread has opened my eyes once again..

Do you have any intention of heading back to this area with some serious camera equipment, tripod etc diana??

If the craft is as big as you are stating, lets see if we get some others coming forward having seen this as well.

Keep up the great work Diana and keep us up to date with any developments.

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