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Detroit is the Most Dangerous City

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posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 11:22 AM
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Disputed study: Detroit is the most dangerous city in the nation

This is a news article discussing an FBI crime statistics report, that Detroit is the most dangerous city in the U.S. The FBI used per capita rates of homicide, rape, robbery, and some others to determine the most dangerous cities.

I think this probably has a lot to do with declining industry and maybe poverty rates.




posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 11:24 AM
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yea I just read that.
I am not suprised. I have never seen anything more sad, dirty and ghetto in my entire life. It's worse that Gary, IN...the armpit of America.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 12:27 PM
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Has been for a long time...
It went on temporary hiatus for a few years, but it has always had a high crime rate. At one time, it had the highest crime rate of any city in the U.S... I guess it just regained its position.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 12:37 PM
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I live in Toledo, just south of Detroit.

I've been up in the area a few times over the past few years, it just looks bad. I feel bad for the people there, the ones who care and try to make the best of their situation.

There was a news report on the local news here a couple of weeks ago, about the homeless in Detroit. A news crew went out to an highway over pass, there was 15-20 people living there. They had cots, some mattresses, etc. It was very sad.

They then showed a house nearby, and caught drug deals on tape, right in the daylight, people walking up to a window, handing over the money and then the drugs would be thrown out to them from the upstairs window.

Very sad situation there...



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 12:37 PM
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I'm going to add some consensus data for more discussion:

Income levels:
Detroit $28,069
Michigan: $46,039

Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2005: 31.4%

Races in Detroit:
Black (81.6%)
White Non-Hispanic (10.5%)
Hispanic (5.0%)
Other race (2.5%)
Two or more races (2.3%)
American Indian (0.9%)
Source

So do you think this has anything to do with it?



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 12:57 PM
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Chyort, it may. The income level certainly can be a contributing factor. I am not going to get into the whole race aspect of this because that is a bit too seedy for my taste. However, the economic aspect of it is a good place to start the discussion...



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 01:19 PM
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The cities officials are corrupt and take, take, take and give nothing back to the community.

Michigan's property taxes are some of the highest in the nation and Detroit is no exception, in fact they have a stupid 1% business tax if you work in the city of Detroit, so they take 1 percent of what you make every year.

Their is also a divide that never recovered after the Detroit Riots in 1967, the city of Detroit has come very close to falling into receivership in the past few years, and this might be a good thing because the elected officials don't know how to run a city.

The mayor is constantly in the news for corruption allegations, he is also very arrogant and seems to care nothing of what the public thinks of him.

Kwame M Kilpatrick list of Scandals - Detroit Mayor

The list goes on and on. I have lived, worked, and be involved in the area for many many years, so I know what is going on.



[edit on 19-11-2007 by Realtruth]



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 01:28 PM
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The Detroit Free Press has reported that Kilpatrick charged more than $210,000 on the city's MasterCard in his first 33 months in office. Some of the charges include an $850 steakhouse dinner; $3,837 on chauffeured sedans; and $11,644 on Super Bowl hotel rooms.

Despite several nagging scandals that include $210,000 in dining and entertainment charges on his city MasterCard; a $300 million budget deficit, and the threat of laying off 612 police officers and 120 firefighters, the outspoken 34-year-old mayor says he's running for re-election in November -- and predicts he'll win.


Wow, that's crazy. Why would anyone vote for him again? There must be better people to run for mayor.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Chyort

Wow, that's crazy. Why would anyone vote for him again? There must be better people to run for mayor.



There was in the last election, but it was alleged the election ballot boxes were wrongly tallied.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 02:37 PM
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So the mayor lays off police and firefighters, can't balance the budget, and meanwhile Detroit becomes the most dangerous city, and still thinks he'll win the election. I'm surprised I haven't see more about him on ATS.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 02:42 PM
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we should look into him a little more and see what is going on with that guy



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 03:01 PM
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Good idea....


Civic Fund Controversy
On May 8, 2007, WXYZ-TV reported that Kilpatrick used $8,600 from his secret Kilpatrick Civic Fund to take his wife, three sons and babysitter on a week long vacation to a a five-star California resort, the La Costa Resort and Spa[7]. The fund, controlled by Kilpatrick's sister and friends, was created to improve the city of Detroit through voter education, economic empowerment and crime prevention. Tax and accounting experts said Kilpatrick's use of the fund was a violation of IRS regulations



Wiki Page



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 03:12 PM
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Thanks for that info. I found this quote on the wiki page:



One member of the Whistleblower trial jury took offense to the implication of Kilpatrick that Jurors were racist suburban liars. He said that he believed that the mayor and his chief of staff were liars, and that jurors were united from the moment they began their deliberations. In an interview , the juror is quoted in a Sept 12 Detroit Free Press Article, calling Kilpatrick "a spoiled little brat who has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar, was sent to the corner and is now pouting


He is trying to sell off city parks to pay for the lawsuits from the whistleblower trial.

It also say he is a member of the Prince Hall Freemasonry. Hmmm...

[edit on 19-11-2007 by Chyort]



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Chyort


He is trying to sell off city parks to pay for the lawsuits from the whistleblower trial.



Trying to?

Already sold many of them off and the citizen's just don't seem to care at all. Really strange. I just don't understand the mentality of Detroit.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 04:54 PM
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Wow, crazy stuff. And the way the article made it sound, he sold them to pay for HIS lawsuits. What do the parks get turned into?



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Chyort, it may. The income level certainly can be a contributing factor. I am not going to get into the whole race aspect of this because that is a bit too seedy for my taste. However, the economic aspect of it is a good place to start the discussion...


Why is the racial aspect of seedy? Would it be a valad discussion with out it? We have to dance around the "illegal immigrant" issues here in California, I guess the same applies in places like Detriot and Gary Indiana.



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 06:26 PM
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The racial aspect is there. The people of Detroit decided in there infinite wisdom to make a big issue out of burying the N word. They traveled to Jena.. Over 1000 miles on some trumped up pulpit pit tour. They literally marched in the streets for some convoluted demand for justice.

Mean while two children are murdered in their slumber. Two others are shot point blank in the face...

The people of Detroit are more to blame than the mayor. They put him there and didn't march or demand any kind of justice for any of the wrongs of that cess pool of a city. No march for justice when they eat their own but some noose hanging in a tree motavates them to travel 1000 miles? It's a giant joke.

I don't feel sorry for any of them with the exception of the children that are being raised to continue the cycle.

I am just north of Detroit and I don't ever go into that town. Not because of the crime. I don't go because I won't enable them through the economic benefit of my dollars.

Race is a factor and it's a big one here folks. 90% of the city is black and yet they still blame white America for their problems. We aren't even there and we are to blame.

They burned us out of that town. We don't even live there but it's out fault?



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Perplexed

Race is a factor and it's a big one here folks. 90% of the city is black and yet they still blame white America for their problems. We aren't even there and we are to blame.

They burned us out of that town. We don't even live there but it's out fault?


I'm from the Flint area and as you have all seen it's in 3rd place and it's all the white mans fault. After 50 years of trying the white man has given up and moved on and the black man is still blaming somebody else. People that don't see it that way never lived there. They are in charge of their own destiny.

mikell



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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Why would people vote for a mayor like that? They've even reelected him, after all the scandals that had occured. Did he make some big promises or something?



posted on Nov, 19 2007 @ 08:18 PM
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I live just outside Detroit. I think it's a cess pool with its leaders acting as lifeguards. What a farse. There are still some very nice older historic homes and neighborhoods within the city, but they are the minority compared to the rest of the city.

Some of the stores up here sell "Detroit, where the weak are killed and eaten" T-shirts. People still buy them, usually the younger kids. Detroit is a mess, a total dive, pure and simple. All those projects undertaken to boost city pride before the Superbowl that was played here a couple of years ago was like putting perfume on a pig.



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