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Is ATS becoming Increasingly Anti-Christian?

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posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 02:16 AM
If we look at prechristian Europe it was as much a maelstrom of human brutality then as it's ever been, look at our modern day secular society, there are sections within that willing to kill each other over a gang colour or a rival football team. We don't need religion to be crappy to each other, it's just there in us.

Some Christians stink, some are just normal everyday people, some are truely inspirational people, much like everyone else really.

posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 06:24 PM

Originally posted by mattifikation
Uh. No, I'm positive that I'm right on this one. Get a dictionary, look it up.

A religion is a social institution that includes a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law.

posted on Nov, 27 2007 @ 09:14 PM
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth

Why not read the whole article?

Definitions mostly include:

* a notion of the transcendent or divine, often, but not always, in the form of theism
* a cultural or behavioural aspect of ritual, liturgy and organized worship, often involving a priesthood, and societal norms of morality (ethos) and virtue (arete)
* a set of myths or sacred truths held in reverence or believed by adherents

Definition of Religion

You can't just pick one definition of something, and then say that you don't fit the description even though you fit the other definitions.


You may follow your own personally created denomination. You may even follow your own personal religion. Nevertheless, you follow one, which makes you religious.

1) religious. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
...Having or showing belief in and reverence for God or a deity. 2. Of, concerned with, or teaching religion: a religious text. 3. Extremely scrupulous or conscientious:...

American Heritage Dictionary

There's another one for you. Any more semantics you want to argue for no purposeful reason?

Edited to add:
Why not just finish quoting the very same paragraph you started with?

A religion is a social institution that includes a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.

You've crossed the line from kidding yourself to attempting to lie to people.

[edit on 27-11-2007 by mattifikation]

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 11:50 AM
The first part of the paragraph clearly defines what religion is... Spirituality falls under mysticism and your own personal set of beliefs. Spirituality and religion are NOT one and the same thing..
You have a good day now. Ta-ta...

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 12:06 PM
Are people being "anti-christian" or are they pointing out facts which expose errors in the belief system? Is the "anti-christian" label being used so the facts can be easily disregarded?

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:05 PM
What's wrong with the essential belief in Christianity: Jesus died and came back. All evidence shows something happened to that guy. No bones = no burial.

posted on Nov, 28 2007 @ 10:49 PM
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth

Wow... just, wow man. The definition is right there in front of you. It's right on the source you posted. And you still deny it... the evidence stares you right in the face. We aren't even debating the existence of God here, we're talking about the definition of a word. A definition which is on your own source. Open your eyes and read a dictionary, I won't argue about something this obvious with somebody who can only read half of each paragraph.

posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 10:24 AM
Spirituality and religion are not, once again, the same thing. If you think they are the YOU are the one with the understanding problem, not me. Thank ya.

posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 12:11 PM
Your own source quite clearly includes "personal" beliefs, if you would take the time to read more than just the part of it that you agree with. Case closed.

posted on Nov, 29 2007 @ 11:42 PM
OK kiddies, break it up. Your arguing over two different phrases of the same word. It's like saying Your Siberian but not Russian. Your Russian if you live in Siberia, like it or not.

Back on topic, every religion goes through trying times. Christianity will come out ok like usual. Just like the Muslims did in whatever trying times they had. Just like the Jews in all their trying times. End of story.

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