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Things you can do to get to Heaven. My secret revealed.

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posted on Nov, 20 2007 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by dizziedame
Miller I noticed you said if your spirit is weak it could be trouble. You did not say if your body is weak. I understand this well as it takes food to create the energy in our bodies. I believe our souls to be a form of energy. And you did speak of talking to angels and God.



Thank you dizzie. You seem to be aware of many things as well. Take this scenario. Your spirit(soul) is weak, you die, you leave your body..suddenly, you begin to drift, you try to fly up but can't. you try to leave the earth, but you can't. many hours later. You begin to sink, sink into the earth. this is the gravitational field, gravity and other componets that the earth has in it's core that is pulling you down. Your soul is then caught and you are stuck in the core..Never to get out. God, or anyone else can't pull you out. So that's your end.


Yes, I was told by the two men many things. I couldn't really see them, they were in the mist, it was really cold, and you couldn't really see much. but you knew they were there and they spoke telephatically. I could only call them angels. but they could have been just aliens or creation energy beings. but everything was white there. God was also there and he explained the procedure. they pulled me up there to recharge me and explain a few things. one of them being, how the creation energy works.




posted on Nov, 20 2007 @ 05:58 AM
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wow really? Earth has a core? I thought god said it was flat.
Gravitational pull? Wah?

Funny how your just using modern science concept to describe it.



posted on Nov, 20 2007 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by AncientVoid
wow really? Earth has a core? I thought god said it was flat.
Gravitational pull? Wah?

Funny how your just using modern science concept to describe it.


I'm trying to explain this to you in "Earth terms" so everyone can understand.

And it's not only about the gravitational pull. it's also about falling down. I don't know exactly how this works, but you just loose the force to move up and you sink. could be the pull, rotation or other factors.



posted on Nov, 20 2007 @ 08:00 AM
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First of all Jedi ..I'd like to state you are a complete loon and I'm soo glad I'm not alone here

(Love your work on trans-warp microwave dinners:lol


I was just reading your theory on the soul's method of escaping earths 'gravity'(more scientific terms I know) ...
Let's call the escaping/exiting life force a 'soul' and the earth,s entity binding force 'gravity'

I actually agree with your description of the souls challenge to escape earth's gravity.
It's exactly as I envisage it to be ..directly after the 'dying' process.
Where we differ is..
A soul's failure to escape results in what we call re-incarnation..not the total demise of the soul and the resulting plunge to the earth's core.
God knows,why do we need a 'hell' when we're living in it right now.

I reckon the 'escaping' process is a bit like trying to be the fastest sperm to fertilise the egg..only the strongest and fastest will make it.
When I kick the bucket I hope to be ..a kind of spiritual Carl Lewis.

The desire to escape the bonds of earth and find out what is out there is very strong in this lifetime.
I'm guessing I was a bit too curious to see if we'd all be driving hover cars by the 21st century to escape last time.DOH!!



posted on Nov, 20 2007 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by jedimiller
here, god lives and he created everything using "creation energy". he had too much of it on the other side, it was a mistake, so he flushed the creation energy and by doing so it created itself as a human form, or any other form.


Goodness me,'god' made a mistake!!!!

There is hope after all



posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 01:44 AM
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Very interesting posting. I would have to ask for the references used for this logic. For those who are troubled by the soul not being able to pull away from the earth's gravitational field; breathe and relax. The soul (Holy Breath) is divine. It comes from Allah (Please understand I am Moor so I use the name Allah to describe the creator. There are many names from Jehovah, Yahweh, Brahma, The One, but all names are divine.) and because Allah breathed life into you, the soul is forever and shall return back to it's origin.

When we die (Reborn), we are harmonically out of tune with this space/time, and exist on a different set of laws. These laws allow us to travel instantly through the fabrics of time, space, and dimensions. When Jesus ascended, he returned stating what he has done, you will also do. This tells us that when you leave this world, you have divine flesh capable of returning or reincarnating throughout the multiple worlds or dimensions created by Allah.

We believe that heaven and hell exist within yourself (Higher Self and Lower Self). We are at a constant jihad or struggle with our lower self. This lower self is the hatred, jealousy, prejudices, and other negative things living inside of us. The Higher Self is from Allah and will ascend. So many are fused with their lower self, it becomes impossible for them to ascend.

Love for all of the creation of Allah (The law that all things are connected) is the key for proper ascension. Because all things came from Allah (Universe, Stars, Planets, Life) to Allah we shall return.

www.ancientorderoffreeasiatics.com...

Peace



posted on Nov, 22 2007 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by rapturas
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I would contest that science doesn’t know everything, so putting down the crystals for a science book isn’t necessarily wise, maybe a healthy portion of the two would suffice =]


...are you mental?



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 01:41 PM
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I have to say that with all due respect to the OP for making a kewl thread, I disagree with the physical laws applying to our souls as if our souls are a physical thing. If this were so, we could have tangible proof of the soul that we could demonstrate on our instruments like televisions and so forth. We dont have absolute proof of the soul. Some believe, and some don't. Much is the same with God.

But I have yet to meet someone that believes in God but not in souls, or someone that thinks we have souls but doesn't believe in some form of a God.

I think our Earthly deeds are what determines if our soul leaves, if anything. Personally, I think no matter who you are, when you die, you immediately go to what some call Purgatory, or Sheol, think of it as St. Peters Square, where as Heaven is inside the Basilica. The masses of souls go there and wait. I am not sure if we are aware at this time, or if we are unaware, like someone sleeping but without any dreams. What we wait for is the Messiah, Jesus, to usher in the first resurrection. This, according to Christians, raises up the most devout and elect, the martyrs, and so forth, up into Heaven.

***###=== This is where Evangelicals try to add in "the Rapture", claiming that the living who are devout and righteous will also be swept up into Heaven, still alive and in the flesh without experiencing natural death, during the first resurrection of all the saints and martyrs. Theres nothing to really support this, and in my opinion it is just so they can tell themselves that everything is going to be okay, they'll never have to die because Jesus is comin' and he's comin' tonight! ===###***

Then after all the Revelation stuff takes place and Armageddon takes place.. the second resurrection occurs, where every single soul is resurrected, and judged by their deeds. If they did bad, they don't get into Heaven, but I can't say they go to a permanent hell where they are tormented for eternity. More like they are stamped out of existence.

But yes, the concept that when we die, we are just gone and unawares is ever present in Religion as well. Even if we have faith in God we have to wrestle with the possibility of that. We can only have faith in the resurrection!

Thank God for the day that we Resurrect ..

[edit on 11/24/2007 by runetang]



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 01:48 PM
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lol clearly, i must be www.nhsdirectory.org...

EDIT to add for those that wont follow the link for the UK National Health Service directory =]




How does Crystal Healing work?

Crystal Healers are not permitted or trained to diagnose physical ailments. They do however assess the condition of the bio-magnetic field of a client before choosing appropriate crystals to help bring it back into balance and harmony. Since the state of the bio-magnetic field relates to and influences the state of the physical body, this process will help activate, support and often accelerate the natural self-healing processes. It may be of interest to note that this field, also known as the electro magnetic field or aura, has been discussed and contemplated within the realm of healing and philosophy for thousands of years. It is only fairly recently that science has proven that it must exist around every physical body and organism, thereby helping, amongst other, to validate crystal healing.


[edit on 24-11-2007 by rapturas]



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 01:53 PM
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Would it be OK if I bring up the subject of SIN.

Does confession help us to lessen the drag on our souls, when in transit to meet our maker.



posted on Nov, 24 2007 @ 11:39 PM
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Unbearably delicious.
THX for the giggle. I do so appreciate sarcasm that carries truth.



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 05:28 AM
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you're like the energizer bunny



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 07:31 AM
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If anyone is interested in learning more about the uni~multi-verse, please follow the link below. Its the best book i have read in a very long time and answers questions that science nor religion cannot.

The Handbook of the Navigator (spiritual awakening) inside!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Enjoy



posted on Nov, 25 2007 @ 09:46 AM
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I second him, read that navigat0r shiet.

I am, it is really good.



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by rapturas



How does Crystal Healing work?

Crystal Healers are not permitted or trained to diagnose physical ailments. They do however assess the condition of the bio-magnetic field of a client before choosing appropriate crystals to help bring it back into balance and harmony. Since the state of the bio-magnetic field relates to and influences the state of the physical body, this process will help activate, support and often accelerate the natural self-healing processes. It may be of interest to note that this field, also known as the electro magnetic field or aura, has been discussed and contemplated within the realm of healing and philosophy for thousands of years. It is only fairly recently that science has proven that it must exist around every physical body and organism, thereby helping, amongst other, to validate crystal healing.


[edit on 24-11-2007 by rapturas]



Aside from the fact that "crystal healing" or the use of charmstones is psuedoscience at best, I was infact referring to your throwaway comment of "science doesn't know everything". That one comment terrifies me.

I'm trying to say that just because you might not understand exactly what science is telling us or where it is going (and i know I haven't got a clue), doesn't mean believing something that has absolutely zero empirical evidence might provide better answers or solutions. Science is humanity's attempt at deciphering the universe, and, frankly, having the answers to everything. That is the point of it. They might not be there yet, but they are slowing chipping away the mysteries.

I've bolded the bits on your NHS extract that I think you need to consider; also, check the wikipedia article on it out. It says everything about it, really.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by jedimiller

Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Yeah, I used to have exactly such believe, but it still doesn't explain the origin of soul, nor the destination, nor why it's here.



Origin of soul: God lives on the other side of the universe. once you get to a dark wall, there is a hole on the wall of the universe. there you see what looks like a star, but it's actually an entrance. here, god lives and he created everything using "creation energy". he had too much of it on the other side, it was a mistake, so he flushed the creation energy and by doing so it created itself as a human form, or any other form.


The destination: anywhere, anyplace, any living thing.

It's here because it was sent out into our universe and it has it's own brain. it does what it feels like doing and It can create anything it wants, and not do what GOD told it to do, it has free will and freedoms to create anything it wants.


We are here to make the soul, (creation energy) work, learn and take back information. once it's used up, you go back and recharge to be sent out again. it's a process that goes on and on. unless your soul does not make it back and it's wasted in the core or other galactic body.


hope this explains more.


What a load of BS! thats off of startrek """God lives on the other side of the universe. once you get to a dark wall, there is a hole on the wall of the universe. there you see what looks like a star, but it's actually an entrance. here, god lives and he created everything using "creation energy". he had too much of it on the other side, it was a mistake, so he flushed the creation energy and by doing so it created itself as a human form, or any other form."""

now dont go saying shii about startek then say its ur own, fool!

peace out have a fun time in hell you heretic!



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Richard.M.J.Palmer


now dont go saying shii about startek then say its ur own, fool!

peace out have a fun time in hell you heretic!




Calling members "fools" even if you disagree; is a foolish thing to do here on ATS if you want to continue to participate.

Could you please call me a heretic also. It would be a badge of honor coming from you. Thanks!!



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 12:22 PM
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Were all heretics to truth because we've all stumbled away from it in our time. All equal. Only opinion differs. Opinion though, being the personally inclined (warped) reflection of a situation, does sometimes nestle into the groove of truth.

Keep going Jedi, but don't accept your minds reflection as truth... it may be fact, fact that it is what you believe, but the truth is different from personal fact.

We all need to keep researching, re-searching.

Peace to you guys.



posted on Dec, 4 2007 @ 01:09 PM
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I think the jedi has only pieces of the puzzle after departure of the mortal realm. For I have been into the darkness as well, to find similarity but no religious affirmations of the event.

The soul or spirit is a sphere of luminance drawn back to the universe of light, our origin in the immortal. Heaven and hell are simply humankind's creation to condition the mortal being by elitist rulers over there Dominions.



posted on Aug, 6 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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This is incredible story. We are angels here on earth and we know that you are here to help us. It is about time someone out there reveals all the secrets to our world without fear of being captured by devil himself. techniques are helpful and we will pass it along.



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