Is Simon Gray a NeoCon?

He probably wasn't originally, but do any of you have details of his past, upbringing, education, change in investments, living locations, since 1998, the year this site was founded, and the present?

It is common sense that if even he was non-neocon when creating the site, he has surely been made tempting offers to sell out to the elite. Has there been drastic changes to the appearance, functions, and exposure/word-of-mouth of this website?????

Either way I will continuing using, but I would think it would be best for all to keep in mind that this is monitored like an airport.

The bandwidth on this site is incredible, probably one of the fastest available. There seems to be no glitches. It is incredibly organized. I am betting that some of the best of the best were and are involved in the creation , maintenance, and growth of this site in order to continue to have the upper hand on the people.

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So your very first two threads are entitled "Simon Gray a Neocon" and "ATS very suspicious".

You seem to have overlooked the idea that threads like these are made everyweek here. Look at the Archive you will find thousands.

Here`s a hint: When you are a newcomer somewhere, first check the situation and status of the place/people before barging in.

Originally posted by IwillSurvive
The bandwidth on this site is incredible, probably one of the fastest available. There seems to be no glitches. It is incredibly organized. I am betting that some of the best of the best were and are involved in the creation , maintenance, and growth of this site in order to continue to have the upper hand on the people.

hehehehe, seeing the Neo-cons and Neo-libs can barely organize a one car funeral I find this hard to believe that ATS is Neo owned, ATS search feature can be your friend

I appreciate the honesty, I agree with what your saying. It is so obvious to me that this site is a playground for informed American youth, in order to keep us disadvantaged. It's like were calling a play and our opponents are listening to every detail. I find it absurdly ironic that the founder's name is "catHerder".

I find this site of little use BESIDES gathering people to support Ron Paul. Everything else discussed and researched in here is common sense. We all know what is happening and why. Ron is the only hope

Originally posted by IwillSurvive

The bandwidth on this site is incredible, probably one of the fastest available.

ayuh, server upgrade when financing took place back in July

Originally posted by IwillSurvive
I am betting that some of the best of the best were and are involved in the creation , maintenance, and growth of this site in order to continue to have the upper hand on the people.

amen to that. the three amigos are incredible at what they do and the members of this site continue to create, maintain and grow this site from within.

they all thank you for noticing.

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I think if you really had the forethought to look around, you would find a great many things about this site that go way beyond common sense. Of course, you could be some boy genius that outshines Stephen Hawking and Brian Green, but somehow I doubt it.

And there are a wide range of ages here, so this isn't a mental watering hole just for child prodigies like your esteemed self. Naturally, without maturity, it appears that the world revolves centered on ones own mass. It has always been man's misfortune to think the stars noticed his passing.

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neo-con! what a joke. who cares what a persons polotics are? they only matter when you go into the voting booth anyway. Maybe thats what Neo-libs(another joke) are afraid of! Maybe thats why they love to be seen in public hugging brutal dictators Casto, chavez, sandinistas.......

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Originally posted by IwillSurvive
I find it absurdly ironic that the founder's name is "catHerder".

Where on earth did you hear that?

No matter, it's not true.

catHerder?

That member joined in Sept 2004 and their last visit was September 11, 2005!

Not much of a founding member if they joined 6 years after the founding and left a year later....

Anyhoo, as for your assertion that this is a site for pubescent teens from Yankeeland, your wildly off the mark. Many members are from around the UK (myself and about 50 others I can think of), Australia, Europe, a couple of Russians, some Chinese... They're all here!

I do believe, somewhere, there is a survey of members and one of the questions was location, another was age and so on, in order to get a feel for the demographics.

I have no idea where it is, but I'm sure someone slightly less lazy than me can dig it up.

EDIT:

I'm not as lazy as I thought:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 19/11/07 by stumason]

Originally posted by stumason
I have no idea where it is,

It's at the Demographics link at the bottom of every page.

Well, I warned you, I'm lazy

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by IwillSurvive
I find it absurdly ironic that the founder's name is "catHerder".

Where on earth did you hear that?

No matter, it's not true.

Could it be that you look like a cat herder? Quick!!!! Lose the tie!

Note to self: This opportunity to drub SO in a happy delightful way was worth a one line entry.

Here he is, the catHerder.. Obviously on his Texas ranch instead of running the site. They say he has the most holiday than any other site owner in history:

God!!!!


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Originally posted by IwillSurvive
do any of you have details of his past, upbringing, education, change in investments, living locations, since 1998, the year this site was founded, and the present?

Sorry,but this is just too creepy for words!!
Are you intending on stalking him or dating him??

It would be worth remembering that mods and owners are also contributing members,and as such,value their privacy too.

I'm pretty sure you would have a lot to say if you had to fill in a questionniare for membership divulging the same information you seem to want to aquire.

Two threads on the integrity of the board??
That's 'VERY SUSPICIOUS!

I have a few questions...

1) How can the founder of ATS (Simon Gray) who lives in the UK and has stated a disdain for politics be thought of as a "neocon"?

2) How can one confuse a person who was here for barely a year and contributed all of one thread (albeit a popular one) for the founder of ATS?

3) Would it really hurt you to actually have a look around ATS before making such ridiculous comments. Neocons? Ron Paul? There's a hell of a lot more here than politics. If you looked over the site and that's all you found... wow...

maybe he is neo-labour. or maybe he's an old labour socialist. he could be a communist. he might support the BNP.

But I think I know who he really supports....

Screaming Lord Sutch and the Monster Raving Loonie Party!!!!!1

Isn't "Lord" Sutch dead?

This isn't a one line post.

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You can say he's dead, but I saw him, Elvis, Tupac and Lord Lucan in my local Tescos, I swear.

You know the OP has made himself irrelevant when He is no longer the focus of his own thread, and members start talking among themselves. Which should be very indicative of how many people take the premise of this thread even serious enough to stay on topic.

And most of us make an effort not to let our minds wander.