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Originally posted by woodwytch
Every thread that I've dipped into because it looks promising (since i joined ATS), seems to get hijacked by the same set of debunkers who are hellbent on destroying the potential for a damn good topic.
Dont worry about it. They will be taken care of in the course of time. If our evidence is really that strong it can stand up to any type of attempted rebuttal. Something that is said to be and claimed to be debunked is not necessarily debunked. Just because someone says it is, doesnt make it so. Truly, a lot of things have been debunked, but many more just appear to have been.
Hanslune: Why is providing accurate information “derailing”, if you want to discussion something in a fact free world, then I would recommend star trek, star wars or LOTR – those are made up places
Hanslune: My only assumption is that they are human and humans like yourself. If they are not human then all bets are off, however if they eat stuff, then they will tend to leave a trace.
Hanslune: I wasn’t aware that that subject has come up – or why it has come up? I presume all Egyptians are carbon-based, LOL
Hanslune: you mean reality based on evidence? We are discussing reality in a real place if you want a purely fictional discussion I can do that – I tend to not mix the two.
Hanslune: “invade” this is a public discussion board – if you don’t want to deny ignorance go to private boards
Does academic intellect always mean having the answers ?
Hanslune: It means knowing how to look for evidence and basing your conclusions on that evidence – NOT on what you want to believe
Unless new evidence arrives nothing much is going to happen.
Most of the evidence you appear to use is 4th or 5th hand.
So unless the archaeological or other scientific groups finds something new the present stuff isn't going to go forward and change anyones mind
Sorry Havlon but your assumptions about archaeology are incorrect
Archaeology is publicly open methodology using the scientific method,
most if not all materials are open to the public (you might need to join a library or buy a subscription) but the information is available to anyone.
Anyone can challenge the information.
To Columbus, unfortunately Columbus was wrong, he had the wrong size of the earth – the queen’s advisors were right – they thought the earth was round and of the size we now know. But it turned out alright, both sides didn’t realize that the Americas were in the way.
But new evidence is happening all the time, it is just that the ‘old guard’ do not want it tainting their reputations, and rather than embrace it, they see it as a threat to their reputation, (and book sales!)
And how old is your evidence? How many ‘hands’ has it passed through, quite a few I’d say!
Why does it have to be the ‘archaeological’ groups that have the final say? There are plenty of ‘alternative theories’ that fit in with what is found amongst the dust and rubble.
I never assume anything! I check wherever possible. Did you check my name?
It uses the scientific method available at the time.
Unbeknown to you, I have held a membership too and a subscription to some of the finest libraries in Britain, I do not come here unprepared. The information to which you refer is based upon what was known at the time.
And what did the Queens advisors have to go on? Had they been there before him? Had they got the full ‘facts’ of the earths circumference? I don’t thinks so..they were ‘speculating’ they 'thought' the earth was round.
Originally posted by Havalon
reply to post by woodwytch
My goodness! you are so right, we do tend to get distracted so easily by these interuptions. The last time this happened the thread disappeard into the ether, is that right Sky? Just when it was all begining to make sense.
The gang tackling is something of the 'norm' now sad to say. ("Me thinks they doth protest too much!")
Let us get back on topic,
Originally posted by woodwytch
Please explain why this theory has to be correct ... how do we know they only had crafts that landed vertically? How do we know 'their' engines would 'suck-up' debri ?
Maybe they had various crafts (some for multi-dimesional travel ... others for localized activity), just like some families have more than one car e.g; people carrier for family outings ... smaller car for city travel etc ?