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Topic started on 18-11-2007 @ 01:09 AM by Argos
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Hi all, i've been doing a bit of reading up on astrology. Just for a bit of fun to see if comet Holmes has any significant impact on Earth in terms
of astrology.
Im not into publicising prophecies usually but comet Holmes got me wandering what such an event would mean to astrologers. The results of my current
research do not look promising. As far as astrology is concerned comet Holmes is likely a bad omen.
So if you like reading your horoscopes and have a deep seeded connection to this topic then here are the facts i have obtained.
Comets in astrology have always been harbingers of death and destruction.
The Chinese, who recorded the appearances of comets as early as 613 B.C., thought that the glowing specters were celestial brooms wielded by the
gods to sweep the heavens free of evil, which then fell to earth, bringing wars, floods, droughts and other disasters.
Comets have borne that stigma ever since. Aristotle thought the night visitors were earthly "exhalations" that rose into the atmosphere and were
ignited in fiery upper regions, causing drought and high winds on earth. On its pass in A.D. 66, Halley's, in the words of the Jewish historian
Flavius Josephus, "hung like a sword in the sky" and presaged the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Halley's return in 451 was thought to portend the
defeat of Attila the Hun's armies at Chalons by Flavius Aetius.
www.time.com...
There are other good examples in the above link to reference other cultures beliefs that comets were harbingers of doom.
Now we understasnd that in the history of astrology comets are mainly bad omens, we should take a look at comet Holmes and the meanings, in terms of
astrology, about its path through the heavens.
Here is a star chart that shows the path of Holmes:
www.skyandtelescope.com...
As you can see the comet will take a path past two stars: Mirfak and Algol.
Holmes will pass Algol in Jan 2008
Whats important about this i hear you ask. Well the star Algol is...
...located in the constellation of Perseus. The name is taken from Ra's al Ghul - The Demon's Head but is also known as Caput Algol and Caput
Medusae. It was known as Lillith to the Hebrews after the nocturnal vampire said to be Adam's wife. To the Chinese it is known as Tseih She or piled
up corpses- it's not looking too good so far is it?
collaboratingwithfate.blogspot.com...
Some very good information about the astrology of Algol and the history of comets passing by it, and the effects known on Earth at the time of these
conjunctions can be found at this link:
www.skyscript.co.uk...
About this article [from the link just above]:
The Horror-Scope of Algol, written by Nick Kollerstrom in 2005. In this Nick points out that on April 11th 1996 Comet Hyakutake passed over the
dreaded 25/26 Taurus Algol point swiftly followed by Comet Hale-Bopp the following year. Both of these events coincided with rising tensions in the
Middle East and various untoward events on Earth.
collaboratingwithfate.blogspot.com...
Here is a report about comet Holmes that isn't to do with Algol but still this astrologer sees the comets appearance as a sign of great change:
astrodynamics.blogspot.com...
I show this link to the above report to show yes in terms of astrology something terrible might be linked with the passing of comet Holmes with
Algol, but there is hope.
There seems to be a catalyst of events happening right now in the world, no one can deny that. Times like these lead to great changes. These changes
no matter how they are achieved can only be a good thing for the human race in my opinion.
Its about time we got off our lazy behinds and start a unified world effort to make the world a better place. Maybe what ever is going to happen is
just a shove in the right direction from the universe. Unfortunately for us that shove might include WW3 or pole shift or some other cataclysm in less
we start to love one another and the Earth.
Its not all doom and gloom though Holmes also passes by Castor. This star, sometimes named Apollo, speaks of 'A Ruler yet to come'
In closing i would like to leave you with the thoughts of Kathryn Cassidy as i think they ring completely true in my opinion:
In offering this information I seek to remind people that the current atmosphere of negativity that is swirling around us is often driven by
people's tendency to look for the cup being half empty instead of half full. There is no denying that our World seems to be in a precarious state
with wars, famine, disease and the latest threat of global warming. However all these things are part of the great cycles of evolvement and it may be
prudent to keep perspective. The coming Jupiter/Pluto conjunction in Sagittarius, the sign of Faith, coincides with one of the dates that Comet Holmes
is expected to reach Algol, Dec 11th 2007. This could indeed speak of calamity and strife arising from despotic leaders in the name of religion or
even global/galactic horrors. However, this stupendous comet and these aspects could also herald the birth of a new way of thinking and being. An
illumination of spiritual consciousness that is leading us into a wonderful new era under the guidance of some very wise men or women.
If you gaze at the image [of Holmes] can you really see this dazzling vision as a harbinger of evil?
[EDIT: Typo]
[EDIT: Edited typo, updated. And typo was still there  ]
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 01:17 AM by Argos
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Here is another interesting Holmes prediction about the comets path past Mirfak that has been briefly talked about on another thread.
Its about a crop circle in England. The crop circle is of a Mayan calendar, the maths was pretty complex but there were two dates deciphered from the
crop circle.
The first is the date the crop circle was made, they think this is so the decipherer could tell he had matched the dates from the Mayan calendar to
our Gregorian calendar.
The second date seems to coincide with comet Holmes transition of Mirfak. Just coincidence? What does it mean?
I dont know.... just thought it was quite interesting. Her is the link to the full report:
www.cropcircleconnector.com...
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 01:38 AM by benevolent tyrant
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A fascinating astrological take on the comet Holmes.
I am not an astrologer. I have an understanding of the principles of astrology but still I was surprised to see that they might be applied to comets
and, perhaps, asteroids. I had thought that astrological predictions were based solely upon planets and, I would suppose, moons (primarily the
Earth's moon).
Interesting material.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 02:04 AM by wrangell76
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Great research on this!  I have, for the past few weeks, had a bad feeling about Holmes. I just hope that I am wrong...
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 02:49 AM by AncientVoid
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I just recently read that Comet Holmes is bigger than the sun and it's the largest object in our solar system now, very interesting.
Full article
If we start orbiting the comet we're screwed
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 03:21 AM by kingsnake
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It's the gas explosion cloud that's bigger than the sun. Not the comet nucleus.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 04:38 AM by Anubis Kanubis
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Originally posted by kingsnake
It's the gas explosion cloud that's bigger than the sun. Not the comet nucleus.
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What if this comet's atmosphere is composed of a flammable gas, such as hydrogen? Will it ignite as it approaches the sun? Will it subsist
as a second sun?
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 04:48 AM by kingsnake
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Look I'm just a 16 year old guy with a telescope.
If it's hydrogen, it's not enough to form a new star since it's only an expanding layer of gas (or whatever it is), which its luminosity is
decreasing, so its surface temperature is decreasing, so it means there's relatively nothing between the comet and that layer.
If it eventually gets attracted to the sun it will "ignite" as everything else that's attracted to the sun.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 08:03 AM by BlackProjects
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 08:21 AM by dawnstar
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to me, a comet signifies something new, alien, being introduced into the human psychie...it could be a new way of reasoning, a new perspective. new
knowledge, ect. but whatever it is, it has the potential to be revoulutionary.....or maybe in this case, explosive, since the comet did explode.
I think the bad omen bit plays into the situation as humanity tries to adjust to this new thing...
for instance....the comet could be just signifying the full disclosure of the existance of ufo's and full disclosure regarding otherworld visitors to
earth...
the bad omen bit would come into play if the people, and the institutions resisted this awareness from flowing though our consiousness thus creating
friction and conflict....
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 08:34 AM by mythatsabigprobe
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Or it could just be a lump of ice.
This comet has been making the same orbit for possibly millions of years, and makes the same conjunctions every seven years. It's not predicting
anything except that it'll be back again in seven years.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 10:28 AM by kingsnake
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Or it could just be a lump of ice.
This comet has been making the same orbit for possibly millions of years, and makes the same conjunctions every seven years. It's not predicting
anything except that it'll be back again in seven years.
by the way it also exploded in the 1890's, but it was a slightly smaller explosion
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 10:53 AM by dawnstar
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1892 - Rudolf Diesel invents internal combustion engine that runs on oil.
The new idea.....that changed the world.....
the bad side (the bad omen, if you like) of it, how the people reacted to this new idea, well.....look around you.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 12:49 PM by yahn goodey
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reply to post by AncientVoid
holmes now bigger than the sun?---------i woke up at 2:00am last night and saw the stars thru the livingroom window-------we hardly ever get clear
skies in the east coast of canada---------i looked in vain for an hour as i have on a couple of other clear nights-----------i assume the street
lights are messing the view up for me? what a frustration !perseus----cant even find that on a skychart so i could at least get orientated in the
right direction.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 01:19 PM by NJ Mooch
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reply to post by Argos
The quote from Kathryn Cassidy hit the mark with me. I am a Sag and understand the person that I am. I have been trying to help members on this site
take a step back and see things from a logical stand point. Lately I have been getting many more messages then normal.
Is this because I go against ignorance by showing the facts, not opinions, and making assessments from those facts? Is this the guidance that she
mentions? I am in no way a wise man but I learn from others and share this way of thinking since it makes sense when you base your ideas on fact.
I am not saying that i'm here to save the world, but if I can help one person understand things better and give them a chance to live a happier life
then i'm all for it.
This is what I got out of her quote. I really hope this is what is going to happen next month. So many people focus on the negative and fail to see
the positive.
The glass might not be half full or half empty, it could be twice as big as it should be.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 06:10 PM by BoulderSue
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reply to post by Anubis Kanubis
I checked on the comet earler today on the Sky an Telescope website and a couple of others to find out where to locate it and in the process found out
a few facts. The cloud surrounding the actual comet is not flammable. It's just dust fromt the explosion and is extremely attenuated dust. The comet
is also moving away from the sun and the cloud around is still expanding, becomming thinner and thinner, therefore harder to see. However this same
comet did explode twice when it came around in the 1890's, so it's not impossible that it will do so again. That makes it worth keeping an eye on,
not because it's dangerous in any way, but because it may give us more of a show.
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 10:17 PM by fireryagent
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is it posible for a comet to cross through the orbit of the earth so the earth would pass through the tail of the comet and the meteors in the tail
would bombard the earth is this posible has anyone discoverd a comet that will pass us in about 10 years if not how soon can we detect a comet heading
our direction a prophet who lived 500 years ago forsaw this that meteors would bombard the earth at a time when the world was at war and that this
event would trigger a nuclear war
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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 11:13 PM by Argos
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Algol a mis-understood star?
Here is a snippet of an article by an astrologer who believes Algol is a mis-understood star. And that actually this star represents female wisdom.
What could Comet Holmes be all about? Comet Holmes is in the constellation of Perseus, where we also find Algol, the much-maligned Star which many
believe is actually associated with feminine power. Algol represents Medusa, whose name in Sanskrit means "feminine wisdom". Together, Algol and
Medusa are surely the most misunderstood of all Stars and Goddesses.
And where was Comet Holmes on the day it was discovered? 26 Taurus. Exactly where Algol is today. Just like Ceres, representing The Cosmic Mother was
exactly conjunct Algol the day it was discovered.
What a co-incidence! OR NOT!!!
www.yasminboland.com...
History of Medusa one of the gorgon sisters:
Medusa, originally a beautiful young woman whose crowning glory was her magnificent long hair, was desired and courted by many suitors. Yet before
she could be betrothed to a husband, Poseidon (Neptune) found her worshipping in the temple of Athena (Minerva) and ravished her. Athena was outraged
at her sacred temple being violated, and punished Medusa by turning her beautiful tresses into snakes and giving her the destructive power to turn
anyone who looked directly at her into stone.
www.webwinds.com...
A suggestion as to why the legend of medusa is actually a mis-understood symbol of feminine power, so therefore the star is mis-understood can be
found here:
Historically, before ancient Greece, Medusa was worshipped by the Libyan Amazons as a Serpent -Goddess, and associated with the destroyer aspect
Anath (also known as Athene) of the Triple Goddess in North Africa and Crete. The name Medusa (Medha in Sanscrit, Metis in Greek and Maat in Egyptian)
means "sovereign female wisdom." This online Medusa paper discusses the Libyan and Near Eastern conceptions of Medusa.
Some scholars believe that the Greek and Roman Medusa myth, as told by Ovid, expresses the vanquishing of the great goddess religions as the male gods
Zeus/Jupiter and Poseidon/Neptune gained power. Others view it as expressive of the subjugation of women's bodies and enslavement of their spirit by
a violent and oppressive male-oriented culture, which viewed Medusa's life-giving, creative, primal energy as threatening.
www.webwinds.com...
So actually if you look at the history of Medusa you might analyse that she was a symbol of female wisdom. And this was changed by the power hungry
males of the Greek and Roman periods to suit there own ends.
So maybe we are mis-understanding the star Algol and what it represents or maybe Medusa is angry her legend has been defiled and is now a vengeful
presence in the stars.
Vivian Robson (1923) gives [Algol] the nature of Saturn and Jupiter and says it causes misfortune, mob violence, decapitation, electrocution,
causes death to the native or others and if with Mars in Gemini or Pisces the hands and feet will be cut off. Not surprisingly then it is considered
the most evil star in the heavens.
collaboratingwithfate.blogspot.com...
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reply posted on 19-11-2007 @ 11:27 AM by sinthia
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If everything in the universe is ultimately energy, which it is, then a comet could concievably affect our energy field. As for the interpretation of
that effect, that is a completely different matter.
Observers have given the meanings to astrological events, they are subjective, and so are open to interpretation.
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reply posted on 20-11-2007 @ 05:10 AM by dawnstar
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comets are travelers, they make regular visits to our sun, but well, I don't think they've ever found just what makes the things turn around and
head back into the solar system....
it's our sun's gravity that swings them around and sends them back on their way out of our system...
for all we know, they keep traveling till they run across something with enough mass to turn them back heading towards us. another sun, with another
system of planets??
another system, with a different resonance in it's energy. the comet's own energy would be affected by this different resonance, it would change
it, and then it comes back to us, with this "alien" resonance, and when it gets here, it will be changed by ours. but this alien resonance would
also have an effect on ours...
everything is energy, what we percieve is just what our senses interpret this energy to be. we see a comet!! but, what effect this new, "alien"
resonance will have on everything in our solar system is unknown. I believe that there is a grand designer involved in all this, and that these
travelers somehow aid in the evoulution of the universe by sharing the gems--(ways of thinking, ideas, ect) from one group with other groups.
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