posted on Dec, 13 2002 @ 04:01 AM
Welcome to AboveTopSecret. I'm relatively new, too.
I severely cut up fundamentalists in this post, so if you are really, really sensitive or feel yourself getting red-faced, you may want to discontinue
I'd first like to point out that Satan's not a moron (like Bush). He would trick humanity into taking the mark, just like he tricked Adam and Eve
into biting the apple. He is not going to come down as a literal many-headed beast nor as a great red dragon. I am no prophet and can't see the
future, but I can say for sure that he won't make any of his plans obvious and will "decieve even the elect, if it were possible".
I have been absolutely, 100% convinced that the SS# is, if not the precursor to, the mark. The reason? We would not be able to survive in western
society for very long without it. No job, no school, no driver's licence, no bank account - no life. Of course, your social security number doesn't
say '666', instead, it has "the number of (your) name", that number is your name to the government. And governments and kingdoms in the
Bible are usually referred to as 'beasts'.
I cannot say for sure that this is the mark that St. John saw in his vision - it could be a tatoo like the nazis gave the jews or a microchip inserted
beneath the flesh - but the spirit of the social security number is the same as the mark. Every other card you own, down to your video store and air
miles card, can be tracked to your SS#. And everything you do with your cards can be traced by those who know your SS#.
As to having a choice, take a look at the homeless people living in the streets of New York without ID of any sort. These are the people Jesus
committed His life to helping, they have refused the mark (in a way), and are paying for it with denegration, isolation, and pitiful desperation, not
to mention frostbite.
The amish have also refused to follow our society's path. The pay taxes when they are told to but (except for medical emergencies) they pretty much
live their lives the same way their ancestors did. They don't care about money, power, Britney Spear's new boyfriend, or Bush's 'war for oil'.
They care about God's Word and try to follow His laws to the best of their ability - they don't saturate themselves with television violence,
internet porn, fast food, Stephen King novels, etc. They try to keep themselves pure.
If the world went up in flames, it'd be nonconformists like the amish and small tribes of people like the yanamamo of Peru who would know how to
survive. Where you and I rely on Safeway for our food, they rely on their hands and God's blessing. Where we buy our clothing from JCPenny, they
shear their own sheep and weave their own garments. If there's any material 'remnant' left after armageddon, it'll be them.
As to Fundamentalists and Charismatics... They are great at spreading the Word to the four corners of the earth - unfortunately, most of their
listeners need food, shelter and clothing just as much as the Word of God. They may build houses for the downtrodden at home and abroad, but they
spend far more building and upgrading their own luxurious churches, paying their evangalist preachers and youth pastors huge sums, and buying whatever
'christian rock' cds are hot that month.
The (typical) American Christian Evangelist wears fancy, expensive suits to Church on Sunday while the homeless of new york beg for spare change.
"But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of thier garments." MATT 23:5
They go by the name of 'minister', 'pastor', 'leader', etc.
"But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren." MATT 23:8
They even go by 'father'.
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." MATT 23:9
Back to Christian leaders...
"Whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; and whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servent: Even as the Son of man
came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many."
Church groups and church youth groups are more interested in having a fun time, participating in car rallies, church camps, and singing happy-happy
joy-joy christian tunes than tending to the poor, the wretched, the despicable.
"Come, ye blessed of my Father, inheret the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I
was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and
ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When
saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall
answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Like fast food or a quick buck made on the stock market, Fundamentalists believe that salvation is as easy as 'asking Jesus into your heart' and
that 'works alone' will not save a soul. So, a non-christian, even as courageous, humbled, meek, and righteous as Gandhi will never inheret the
kingdom - according to them, he's burning in hell as we speak. But, according to Paul, someone who follows God's laws, even if they don't know
them, is justified in God. But those who know the laws and don't follow them... are in big trouble.
"For not the hearers of the law (christians) are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not
the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in
their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;" ROM 2:13-15
I'd go on about how so-called evangelists are backing George's "War for Oil", even though he's killed literally tens of thousands during his
reign. Or how 'Christian' soldiers go overseas and kill people, breaking God's Commandment, to secure the world for democracy. Or how 'Christian'
business owners work their employees to the bone for minimum wage...
But I have to go.
[Edited on 13-12-2002 by Savonarola]
[Edited on 13-12-2002 by Savonarola]