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2 Robbers Killed by Homeowner. Third robber charged with murder?

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posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 03:26 PM
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I got a Question... Alright everytime a black do something wrong why is he a thug. But when a White do something wrong he isnt called a Thug???

[edit on 11/17/2007 by Marvinwillis]




posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 03:36 PM
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who cares about skin color?

the surviving dude had every opportunity to talk his mates out of this

is stealing my tv worth losing your life over?

thats up to you, because i will shoot

[edit on 17-11-2007 by planetfall]



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
I got a Question... Alright everytime a black do something wrong why is he a thug. But when a White do something wrong he isnt called a Thug???

[edit on 11/17/2007 by Marvinwillis]


its the culture, who's in the rap videos referring to themselves as thugs?

what culture glorifies criminals as pimps, gangstas & thugs?

offended? swell.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by shadow watcher
Good for you home-owner. One question, why did you let one escape death? Now there will be a courtroom circus around him.


i was told by a law enforcement officer that if you shoot someone invading your home, be sure he's dead, if hes wounded he'll sue you

and if you shoot before he gets in the house, be sure to drag him inside before you call the cops

sound advice, i think



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
I got a Question... Alright everytime a black do something wrong why is he a thug. But when a White do something wrong he isnt called a Thug???

[edit on 11/17/2007 by Marvinwillis]



Because those are called TPT. You have got to get your labels straight.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 05:03 PM
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If that was the UK, the homeowner would be up for murder whilst the burglar would be compensated for injury/death.
So bass -ackwards!


I'm all for the homeowner kicking ass!! My argument is: if you didn't break into my home at 2AM you wouldn't have been in the way of my baseball bat!

[edit on 17-11-2007 by mirageofdeceit]



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Meatclown
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Certainly an individuals actions only speak for that individual alone. However, in this day and age you can hardly blame the anti-black sentiment in America. The majority of violent crimes (rape and murder) are committed by black people even though they are a minority group. Its not racist its simply a fact that anybody may observe that whatever community blacks inhabit turns into a crap-hole in 5 to 10 years. This "racism" isn't limited to blacks either; i grew up in west-philly and i'll tell you nobody hates blacks more than the Koreans in their communities, many of whom are first or second generation immigrants. No history of racism or slavery there.


I see... so every community in America with blacks in it is now or will be a crap-hole in 5 to 10 years. I should take your word for this? OK everyone needs to go here: blogs.abcnews.com...

I must admit even I thought some of the many myths about African-American men were true. Guess what? they're not. Knowledge cures ignorance.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Acebooncoon
i would never rob somebody house if there not out of town
huslte ery day


Thanks for the warning....

That let's me know that you would wait until I leave town before robbing me, I appreciate your common courtesy...



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 05:18 PM
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If the third man was the "brain" behind the robbery, he is ultimately responsible for the death of the other two culprits.

Shut and close case. Let the scum rot in prison.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
I got a Question... Alright everytime a black do something wrong why is he a thug. But when a White do something wrong he isnt called a Thug???

[edit on 11/17/2007 by Marvinwillis]


Ill assume you left out the Media instead of the assumed we, as in the general public.

on that assumption my response is the media continues to feed the violent news cycle by implanting a bias in the subconscious. They do so by feeding racial credence into a none racially motivated action. by doing so they ensure the incitement of a racial response which gives them a news story for the next day (i.e. black rights groups protests white homeowner shooting two blacks who were breaking into his home... next days headlines White Supremacist groups support white homeowners 2nd amendment rights....)

Its all about keeping your eyes glued to the tube... and distracted from the real world right outside your bedroom window.

just so you know... I don't care if your black, white, Chinese, Taiwanese, Pikanese, Lebanese, bendy knees, etc... if you rob me... or hit me for no reason, or break into my home... your a thug to me...

my $0.02 cents worth...
(where the hell did my cents button go????)



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 06:09 PM
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So you have a problem with the actions of these 3 black men (and similar stories which are heard just about everyday in the news) speaking for the black community. But you don't have a problem with some black dude who makes a movie about his opinion, speaking for the black community?



Actions speak louder than words. And if the actions of the black community have spoken, they have said "we don't have any respect for our lives or property, or the livers or property of others."

(just my humble opinion)



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 06:32 PM
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Well I can't say I have any problem with what the homeowner did.
Everyone has the right to self-defense.
Don't break into peoples homes and you won't get shot.

Charging the surviving idiot with homicide is idiotic though.

I hate these "stretch" prosecutions - they're usually some ambitious DA looking to score brownie points for a reelection campaign.

Charge people with the crimes they have actually commited - metaphorically ("well it was almost like homicide") DOES NOT COUNT!

This guy committed a burglary, so charge him with BURGLARY.
He didn't KILL anyone, or try to, so charging him with homicide is absurd.

As far as the charges of racial bias goes, who knows.
The cynic in me suggests that if this guy was white, the prosecutor wouldn't be willing to go out so far on a limb...

But he knows the statistics as well as anyone, and knows he's likely to have more success prosecuting a black guy than a white one.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 07:51 PM
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What? You confused yourself somehow. What guy and what video are you talking about? This one?

If so, how did you get opinion from a statistic based short?

Also, how is this film's creator trying to represent the black community?



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
I got a Question... Alright everytime a black do something wrong why is he a thug. But when a White do something wrong he isnt called a Thug???

[edit on 11/17/2007 by Marvinwillis]


Why would they not be called a thug? I call them all low life criminals, but I think the term “thug” is used to describe a younger gang type criminal and most white gang members have many more names that are used such as Nazi, head banger etc. Thug is much more non-ethnic term, but the majority of gang members are ethnic in origin.



posted on Nov, 17 2007 @ 11:10 PM
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If I am going to label somebody like that, I am going to do it based on their actions and not their skin color. Thugs are thugs, regardless of whether they are white, black, whatever.

People need to stop being so sensitive, and stop defending thugs.



posted on Nov, 18 2007 @ 12:15 AM
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Good. I'd shoot them too. It doesn't matter if they were black. If someone comes in to my house to steal my damn stuff, they're going to get popped. White, black, Mexican, Chinese, Russian, Indonesian..doesn't matter. Anyone coming in to your home posses the same threat. That threat is the threat of you not knowing what they're going to do or what their intentions are.

Those two got what they deserved.

The third guy should get attempted murder charges for the child that now has brain damage.

I wonder what the black community feels about that? It's ok to break in to someone else's home and give their kid brain damage, but it's so wrong for those involved to get charged with their crimes.

Cut this racial bull# out of it. Jesus christ. I mean, we're really going to go as far as defending these black guys' actions of breaking in to SOMEONE ELSE'S house, simply because they're black? Should blacks be immune from the law because slavery happened over 200 years ago?

I highly doubt the home owner saw them breaking in and said "Hmm..I got some black people breaking in to my house. Here's my gun...if it were white people, I wouldn't shoot. But since they're black........*loads*..*fires*"

Give me a break


Cut the crap. It's old. It's tiring. It's bull#. It happened, it was tragic, but it was over 200 years ago. Get over it. Move on.

[edit on 11/18/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Nov, 18 2007 @ 01:39 AM
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I know you think the charge is bogus. But the law allows for this charge....and it happens all the time. We just dont hear about it all the time.

So, it is not like they are handing out the charge just because of this or that. They are handing it out because 2 deaths occured as the result of them comitting a crime. It is a just charge.



posted on Nov, 18 2007 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Good. I'd shoot them too. It doesn't matter if they were black. If someone comes in to my house to steal my damn stuff, they're going to get popped. White, black, Mexican, Chinese, Russian, Indonesian..doesn't matter. Anyone coming in to your home posses the same threat. That threat is the threat of you not knowing what they're going to do or what their intentions are.

Those two got what they deserved.

The third guy should get attempted murder charges for the child that now has brain damage.

I wonder what the black community feels about that? It's ok to break in to someone else's home and give their kid brain damage, but it's so wrong for those involved to get charged with their crimes.

Cut this racial bull# out of it. Jesus christ. I mean, we're really going to go as far as defending these black guys' actions of breaking in to SOMEONE ELSE'S house, simply because they're black? Should blacks be immune from the law because slavery happened over 200 years ago?

I highly doubt the home owner saw them breaking in and said "Hmm..I got some black people breaking in to my house. Here's my gun...if it were white people, I wouldn't shoot. But since they're black........*loads*..*fires*"

Give me a break


Cut the crap. It's old. It's tiring. It's bull#. It happened, it was tragic, but it was over 200 years ago. Get over it. Move on.

[edit on 11/18/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

These 3 kids dont represent all the black..



posted on Nov, 18 2007 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
These 3 kids dont represent all the black..


and whites don't have an Al Sharpton or an NAAWP



posted on Nov, 18 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Marvinwillis
These 3 kids dont represent all the black..


When did I say they did?


All I'm saying is, no one condones or protects crimes of white people, nor should they, so why do people condone and/or protect black people?

I never said these three represent all blacks. I think that'd be a stupid thing to say. But regardless of the skin color, it is against the law. It doesn't matter if it was a white, black, hispanic, asian, anyone could go in to a house attempting to steal stuff and beat a kid to the point of near death, and it is STILL illegal.

No matter what the skin color, this kind of stuff should not be defended.



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