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Parents Must Immunize Their Children Or Go To Jail

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posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Here, here... And by the same token there should be no law that says medical care must be given... This is the slippery slope that socialized healthcare proponents never talk about... It's in the government's interest to be on the side of preventive healthcare because it's cheaper than trying to deal with chronic lifestyle imposed illnesses, like diabetes, heart disease, HIV/AIDS, lung cancer, high blood pressure, you name it... So guess what? The government is going to get into your life, and tell you what you can and can't eat, drink, smoke and that you better get your fat ass off the couch and hit the gym. Yeah, sounds like a dream... And to think all anyone is worried about is some immunization shots right now...




posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 04:36 PM
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Hi Blaine!


More about Chiron, the makers of MeBNZ
(Chiron made the Bird Flu medications.)

They are also owned, in part, by Bayer Pharmaceuticals.

Who is Bayer? (for those who do not know)

Pay close attention here please. A company named IG Farben in Germany was responsible for funding and benefiting from experiments performed against human beings in the death camps during World War 2. They funded a doctor by the name of Josef Mengele who had a particular fetish for experimenting upon twins, especially identical twins. In some of his experiments he surgically sewed twins together to see what would happen. He castrated one of a male twin set while the child was awake, just to see what would happen. He also removed limbs and gave the children sweets and toys. The children were made to call him “Uncle” and he danced and played with the ones still able to walk as they were taken to the gas chamber…and they are the nicer things that he did to children, all on the funding and with the full knowledge of IG Farben, the German Pharmaceutical company. What in the world does this have to do with Bayer? At the Nuremburg Trials after the War, IG Farben was dissolved and turned into…wait for it…BAYER! And once the war was swept under the Neo con carpet, BAYER once again became a part of IG FARBEN!


Source: www.truthnews.us...

A little bit gruesome and somewhat worrysome. The big three at the start of the article should be of some concern.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:03 PM
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stuff like this just chaps my hide...

just like what happened in texas with the HPV vaccine..the media and govt officials are using words like 'mandated', 'executive order', 'arrested'...to scare the unknowing into accept the govt version of truth. where is the federal law that staes one MUST be vacinated?! what law will the parents be charged with violating???? the truth came out in TX, lets hope it happens in MD....

this is another example of the govt coming out with strong words and threats in order to make people do something that they do not have to do...why didn't faux news check to see if there was actually a law mandating vaccinations??! answer, because if they did they would not find that law and it would put them in a position to report that...secondly, if there was a law mandating vaccinations, why would there be "freely available waivers for PERSONAL and RELIGIOUS" reasons to ....break that law!?!?!

i hope enough parents actively seek out the truth in this matter....it will be interesting to see what the govt reaction to the truth will be.....



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:55 PM
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Ok, it's up to me to be the radical on this subject again


1. Vaccinations do not work - ESPECIALLY the flu jab which has got to be one of the most successful con's in allopathic medical quackery
(if anyone's got any substantial evidence they do, please post it. I asked this many times on a previous thread and after 200+ posts ... nothing even close to conclusive was offered)
2. Vaccinations are dangerous and potentially lethal.

Forced vaccination... probably some toxic chem trial or eugenics program.

If this ever happened in my area, if I couldn't bribe a doc to give me a free pass, then I'd move.

come near my kid with that needle and you'll find it somewhere the sun don't shine boy!

PS. for those who think that they are safe if they are vaccinated and other aren't - sorry, not so. Heaps and heaps of documented cases of vaccinated coming down with the very disease they are being vaccinated with, sometimes brought on by the vaccine itself - now that's ironic. Anyway, as vaccines don't work, it's a mute point.

ps. for heaps of links, studies, graphs, tables etc see this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 14-11-2007 by RogerT]



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 06:07 PM
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Vaccines have saved more people then killed, no argument there. Just happy the my children were not the exception.

Here in Ontario, school boards are strongly suggesting that all grade 8 girls be vaccinated for the STD Human Papilloma virus which is a virus that infects the skin and genital area. They say it may be the main cause of cirvical cancer. My niece has gotten it.

What baffles me is that I never heard of HPV till last year on TV, the suddenly they already have a vaccine for it. I probably missed something somewhere along the way.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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First thing that came to my mind was armed resistance. Isn't that what the militia system is for, to protect the people from government? If enough parents would refuse the shots they could mob up together and send a clear message that the government has crossed the line.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Rhain
Vaccines have saved more people then killed, no argument there.


Nice PR.

If you can actually provide any evidence to support this statement, then I'm all ears. No-one has yet managed anything here on ATS and I posted this challenge at least 20 times.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Rhain

Here in Ontario, school boards are strongly suggesting that all grade 8 girls be vaccinated for the STD Human Papilloma virus which is a virus that infects the skin and genital area. They say it may be the main cause of cirvical cancer. My niece has gotten it.

What baffles me is that I never heard of HPV till last year on TV, the suddenly they already have a vaccine for it. I probably missed something somewhere along the way.


What you missed is that the drug company that lost many millions in the Vioxx scandal has found a way to recoup those losses by peddling some other useless and most likely highly toxic garbage to more children, this time young girls.

I mean, vaccinate against a virus which causes cancer - you gotta love their creativity, they even managed to get 2 of the 3 big fear words in there, just add AIDS into the mix and you got a full house



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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The two 'dread' diseases which they are immunizing against are chicken pox and Hepatitus B. Chicken pox is not really much of a threat and hep. B. is primarily an STD in the US. Yet they need the kids to have this? Why? Also I note that the school district is predominately black. Maybe they are worried that their sterilization program is not getting 100% coverage.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:15 PM
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The pros and cons in regards to the medical short and long-term risk/benefit of flu shots and many other vaccines are to disputed too make it a sane thing to do to penalize parents like this, IMHO.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 08:26 PM
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Yknow what i've had flu maybe 3-4 times in my life, or possibly it was just a very bad cold i dont know. I was out of commission for about 2 days at the most, and then i was right as rain. And i think the last person who died of flu was probably one of those women from a Charlotte Bronte book. Why is the government so concerned about people catching flu in the first place? The only logical explanation i can think of is that flu costs the economy $blah$ amount per year. But i seriously doubt it since depression and back ache are the largest cost to the economy. (cost is measured in days spent absent from work)

This just stinks, people going to jail so kids get a flu jab, cmon whats the real reason behind this. Is it just a case of vested interetss? like wars generate money for the arms industry, who in turn make donations to certain political parties. Has the pharmacuticals also got the government in their pocket?



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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it's a good day to invest in these guys

pfizer and lily will always do well too....



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 08:35 PM
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Really? Hep B? So, what is Hep B?


"Hepatitis B is a serious disease caused by a virus that attacks the liver. The virus, which is called hepatitis B virus (HBV), can cause lifelong infection, cirrhosis (scarring) of the liver, liver cancer, liver failure, and death. Hepatitis B vaccine is available for all age groups to prevent hepatitis B virus infection......"

www.cdc.gov...

So how does one contract Hep B?


"Occurs when blood from an infected person enters the body of a person who is not infected. HBV is spread through having sex with an infected person without using a condom (the efficacy of latex condoms in preventing infection with HBV is unknown, but their proper use might reduce transmission), by sharing drugs, needles, or "works" when injecting drugs, through needlesticks or sharps exposures on the job, or from an infected mother to her baby during birth. Persons at risk for HBV infection might also be at risk for infection with hepatitis C virus (HCV) or HIV."

www.cdc.gov...

Okay, so who is at risk then?


"Persons with multiple sex partners or diagnosis of a sexually transmitted disease
Men who have sex with men
Sex contacts of infected persons
Injection-drug users
Household contacts of chronically infected persons
Infants born to infected mothers Infants/children of immigrants from areas with high rates of HBV infection (country listing)
Health-care and public safety workers with exposure to blood Hemodialysis patients.."

www.cdc.gov...



Oh, no school students on the list?



Okay so let me get this correct. ALL students (regardless of age, status, risk factor etc) must be vaccinated against chicken pox and Hep B (a disease usually contracted via intravenous drug use or unprotected sex) since

"this is a public health issue and a children's rights issue" and "With immunization of children, parents MUST partner with Health Department to authorize the delivery of service to their child" From PDF press release found on this site: www1.pgcps.org...

And if a parent fails to immunize:


"1.Their name will be forwarded to the Court Liaison for referral to Circuit Court
2. Parents will receive a letter from the Circuit Court judge commanding their appearance in court.
3. When parents appear in court, the judge will issue a verbal reprimand and direct them to have their children immunized on site.
4. The Health Department will be on site to immunize non-compliant students.
5. Students will return to school as soon as they receive their required immunizations.

If a parent refuses to attend court hearing and/or allow their child to be immunized at court, a Pupil Personnel Worker will prepare a packet that will facilitate parental referral to court for further action."

from PDF link on www1.pgcps.org... (press release)


So clearly some students who haven't even entered puberty should not be exposed to the dangers of Hep B and have every right to be protected from a disease that they may contract at the local brothel or intravenous drug dealer's house. Makes perfect sense to me.



My prediction is that one day we will ALL require vaccinations by law to combat new super viruses that have popped up from nowhere.
We all know just how much the powers that be care about humanity when there are two patents that clearly could be used to combat the HIV virus ( Patent #5676977 and Patent # 5139684, Also see research down by Dr Robert Beck) yet the information was suppressed. Just VeriChip us all and get this over and done with....



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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In my haste to post a comment I omitted a link to the HPV and what it is.

HPV information.

Also I am shaking my head at why be against vaccines. I for one have been fully vaccinated from birth and have never had whooping cough, polio, small pox ( had an abundant of that vaccine, long story), lock jaw (tetunas), or hep A/B to name a few. Here is the Canadian vaccine schedule. Children not vaccinated can not attend school or day care.

Canadian Immunization schedule

Also never allow a newly vaccinated child interact with a non-vaccinated elder. The vaccine could bring on the disease to the elder.




Also, it is possible for an unimmunized person to contract polio from a child who has been given the live vaccine, even if the child has no noticeable reaction to it. This poses a particular danger if a child has friends or family members who have not been vaccinated, or who have impaired immune function.


Source


The cases of these once socially common deadly diseases have dropped significantly. I do agree that in some cases ill effects from a vaccine are present, but the number of people who have benefited outweigh these risks.
Please note the statistics in the charts found in this link which proves the drop in contracting these diseases.

Statistics

I am not by any means a expert in this subject nor have I read every word on the links I provided. In the few minutes it took me to collect above data I know anyone can google and do the same for the U.S.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 09:51 PM
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I don't think they NEED a law saying you must vaccinate your kids.
It's more devious than that :shk:
If your child doesn't have the required shots, they cannot attned classes.
If you don't attend classes for 30 days, truancy laws go into effect.

After 30 unexcused absences, parents could be charged under truancy, neglect or child in need of supervision laws.

www.nbc4.com...

That's how they are charging the parents



edit: spelling :shk:

[edit on 15-11-2007 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 09:54 PM
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soon they will sell you drugs to combat the side effects of the drugs they sold you yesterday... only the newer drugs will cost more.... same old story



posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by unnamedninja
Yknow what i've had flu maybe 3-4 times in my life, or possibly it was just a very bad cold i dont know.


Yes, it was a bad cold. Flu is short for Influenza, which is a totally different disease.

They are attempting to immunize against the common cold which mutates more often than GWB's underwear.

Anyway, immunisation doesn't work.

It's nothing to do with saving money, it's all about making money by peddling a substance through fear, and most likely there's a bit of youthanasia/eugenics in the mix too



posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by Rhain
Also I am shaking my head at why be against vaccines. I for one have been fully vaccinated from birth and have never had whooping cough, polio, small pox ( had an abundant of that vaccine, long story), lock jaw (tetunas), or hep A/B to name a few.


and I bet you never contracted scarlet fever either? were you vaccinated against that? No, vaccine for SF was never 'invented'.


Children not vaccinated can not attend school or day care.


Yes, that's the way they make sure we all have our immune systems depleted from birth, so we can stay attached to the medical nipple for life.




Also never allow a newly vaccinated child interact with a non-vaccinated elder. The vaccine could bring on the disease to the elder.




That's an oversimplification and misses the point, but at least you're starting to see the potential dangers.



Please note the statistics in the charts found in this link which proves the drop in contracting these diseases.

Statistics


You aren't going far enough back in time. You can use the CDC's own data to see that ALL immunised diseases were almost GONE before vaccines were introduced, usually at least 90% down on historical figures.

I posted many of the charts and data in the other thread, but do a google on 'vaccines did not wipe out disease' or something like that and you'll find plenty of sources.



I am not by any means a expert in this subject nor have I read every word on the links I provided. In the few minutes it took me to collect above data I know anyone can google and do the same for the U.S.


You owe it to yourself and your children to BECOME an expert on this subject.



posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 03:54 AM
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This is about the government being lobbied by the medical companies so they can first "vaccinate" you, then offer you a "cure" against the diseases they have created. There is lots of money in that. Who knows what is in this stuff they are injecting into your body? Do you trust them that much? Mistaaaaake.

Isnt this obvious to everybody (how they work)? I would not take that shot if I were you. I would actually choose prison as a parent. Unless they give you the shot in prison anyway, in which case its a case of "resistance is futile" and its time to get the hell out of the state or country.

You have an extreme amount of cancer in America it seems, as well as other sicknesses. There is something going on.


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posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 04:25 AM
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Has anyone seen the movie Constant Gardener?

I recommend it.

I am definitely suspicious of any kind of forced program.



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