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Why free-energy/new-energy/alternative energy is not used

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posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:13 AM
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I can understand how the worlds economy is based on the fossil fuels, and the controlling of it today, and how new-energy technology would tilt the world economy if released and mass produced, but if we take care in nature and life, it is necessary to produce energy without polution.

Since the people controling fossil fuels are likely to be the people finansially able to massproduce theese new-energy machines, why dont they use this technology?
because they simply can't agree on how to distribute the new-energy machines/knowledge among them. With fossil fuel it is easy, as it is geographically determined where the fuel is, and therefore some countries have it and others don't.
The new-energy technology can be massmade by anyone posessing the knowledge and is therfore impossible to control, by means of money, stockmarket, war and whatever tools are being used today to control fossil fuels.

so what do we do?
We can either try to develop small machines by ourselves and implement them into our daily lifes to free ourselfs from the "fossil fuel power people" or we could cry out to our leaders that we want this technology implemented instead of fossil fuel burning and that we still will pay for energy as we always have and thereby keeping the people in power in power.

I care not how this technology becomes available to us, if it is free for all or controlled by few, as long as it comes into play and removes the poluting fuels i would be more than happy.
If this happens, then over time, other things in the world might start to be of more value then energy.

I encourage all people to make our leaders understand that new-energy is the way we have to go for all humanity and nature. I also encourage people to read and learn about theese inventions to be able to understand and remember that there could be an alternative to fossil fuel. In a way we are all responsible of witch path we choose.

The people in power have already started to listen and are building windmills, waterpower generators and the like, to make a slow turning from fossil fuels into alternative energy, but they are not likely to give up on fossil fuels before they have burned the last drop of oil!

So, if we all stand up for ourselfes and makes it clear that we want to get rid of fossil fuels emidiatly, changes are bound to happen faster, or atleast i hope so.

there are several people, who in the past has come across discoveries of new-energy technology, but they have not been able to get their inventions out into public, or have not finished their exploration into the field.
Tesla
Schauberger
Russel
and more...

one of todays people is Joseph Newman, and i give you a link to his site so that you can explore his videos and claims of his envention.

www.josephnewman.com...

I am not a scientist and i do not have the knowledge to see if his or any other envention is true or if it works, but it is my hope that someone out there have knowledge to see it.

to change the world beliefs, we most first change our own beliefs!




posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:26 AM
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Keeping energy distribution under centralized control is key to controlling a population. ALL utilities must be centralized so that you can have the people by the (fill in the blank).

If you allow people to make their own energy, their own food, collect their own water, then what do they need you for?

The government doesn't sell us solutions, they sell us problems.

The problems they create justify our reliance.

This is why we must become independent, and work on these technologies for ourselves. They will never be given to us by the powers-that-be.

Don't believe it when you hear them say they are working on it. The odds are a million to one that you will ever see them give it to the masses in our lifetime.

No pleading on our part will convince them. They are not interested in furthering goals that require compassion. They have none.

We have to convince OURSELVES that we don't need them, and get to solving our own problems, taking away the faith, trust, and money they keep asking for.

...Because history proves that when a government is entrusted with responsibility, that trust is all too often abused.

[edit on 14-11-2007 by dionysius9]



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:32 AM
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as long as the elite are in charge..free, new, and alternative wont exist on the market..maybe not alternative cuz of bio-fuel..but theres always one exception right? lol..

and you can try to configure your own device..but as soon as they find out about it you catch a shakedown..

im not going to look up any links right now, but i know a few years ago a guy made his own new style of motor vehicle that i think could fly. but it wasnt a plane or chopper..it was a compact car just like any other car you see but with a new design and capability to fly..on top of that, he invented his own source of energy to power the craft..when the government found out about it they tryed taking it from him and threatening him to not try to sell any of his ideas and what not... im not too sure what happened but dude got in trouble for being a genius in his backyard..



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:47 AM
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This is why I think that if anyone comes up with a workable idea, the first thing you should do is post the plans all over the internet. Forget about patenting it, if it's real they won't let you. Even if they do, you will get some not-so-subtle persuasion to sell it or sit on it. They don't want free energy devices out in the public.


Post it on the net, youtube, anywhere and everywhere you can so that they can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Just my opinion



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 05:52 AM
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yea but while that is always a good idea, i was watching some technology # on tv one day and on the main servers they have programs running that monitor the ENTIRE world-wide-web..they would surely catch on to your plan very quickly and shut down anything in relation to you and your work..its not time yet to pull something like that off lol..its getting close tho. theres been alot of secret stuff coming to the public and alot of lawsuits demanding the truth to be made..so who knows, maybe the day is closer than i expect..



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:08 AM
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Why not just invent a solar cell about 5 square centimeters that produces 10Kw energy. It will be attached to a compact 10 watts fluorescent light bulb to provide the light. Perpetual energy.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 07:38 AM
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The companies that everyone keep hammering have engineers and research scientist and spend millions on projects. The problem of all the free energy devices is they don't work. Believe me, if someone had something that produced "free" energy, it would be mass marketed, not hidden away as many claim. As for the USA government involvement, there would be a special tax on the device and it's usage. There would be no reason for them to concern themselves with what power supply you are using, they don't care now if your hooked to a power company, generators, or even your own windmill.

Real companies with real college educated people can tell the difference between a scam artist and a real inventor. You can't ignore certain laws of physics or other hard sciences just because you don't understand them. I really enjoy that claim thrown around by inventors...I didn't go to college so I don't follow this or that law of physics. If someone invents something of real interest, serious money will be thrown around and it will be known.

Many of the "inventions" are just variations of a theme using magnets or coils. Some are simple, some are elaborate, all of them fail.

I know there a true believers of this "science" and I will not change any minds. Some people are so convinced there is a vast conspiracy to keep this information dead, they will never be convinced otherwise.

Newman has been discussed within these forums. There are problems with his machine, but that is in another thread.



posted on Nov, 14 2007 @ 08:20 AM
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there is no such thing as free energy and that term should be burried!

however there is such a thing as magnetic forcefields, spinning electron, vortex motion etc.

and it its from that source the energy is magnified if you will, and as long as no established faculty dares to move away from the books and do some research, they will be stock in this "no free energy!!! end of story" illusion.

it is funy that people can come up with new proves of magnetic forcefield movement and the established science world just keeps denying it. instead of exploring it and debunk it?

explanation on magnetic movement as they might move:
www.josephnewman.com...

this might even be proved now in mathmatics aswell if you look at Marko Rodins Math theory:
www.markorodin.com

That people keep saying "the machines just fail" needs to get away from their books and into the lab.

if it doesnt work, how come several companies are evolving right now?
exambles:
www.perendev-power.com...
www.searlsolution.com...
www.gammamanager.com...



posted on Dec, 3 2007 @ 08:58 AM
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Free energy arrives through the sunlight every day. The rain brings
water to the mountains that flow through rivers to lower elevations.
The earth has geothermal heat from underground. Electrons spin
around atoms by some energy, magnets have some energy displayed
in its field. There are many other examples as well.

These are free sources of energy. Once you put the effort in to
use these sources, the energy is 'free' for you to use until that source
runs dry. If it lasts my life-time it is perpetual to me. Some of
these are more straight forward to use the energy from, than others.
Sure, it cost me to build a paddle wheel to put in a stream, but free
after that.



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 05:00 PM
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Bro you really are ignorant, the US makes their money from oil companies. That is why free energy is suppressed. You trust too much in the people governing us.



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by dionysius9
Keeping energy distribution under centralized control is key to controlling a population. ALL utilities must be centralized so that you can have the people by the (fill in the blank).


I see this expressed sometimes, and I admit I'm a little baffled by it. Do you really think that just because we might own a car that never needs gas that somehow that will "free" us from society in some way? That we'll all be running naked in the streets or something? How exactly does that happen?

Even if we had free energy, we'd still have to buy ways of controlling and distributing it. Somebody has to make those machines, and fix them, and improve them.

Here's a good example. The Internet. I remember not too very long ago when the Internet was "free." You could call up any number of local BBS numbers who had access and cruise around and do pretty much the same thing I'm doing now at 1400 bps for the price of a phone call. Yippee!!

Then suddenly people figured out ways to show images, which required faster machines, and more complex programs. And things got more and more complex until everybody needed faster machines and high-speed lines and more sophisticated programming and all the other stuff associated with it. Now getting decent Internet costs a surprising amount of money. How could that happen to something "free?"

Television. Same thing. Used to be you could go down to the Sears and Roebuck and buy a TV, plug it in, and you'd get TV for nothing. What a concept! Now with cable and satellite and HD/DVD/DVR and whatever, TV costs thousands of dollars a year. For crap TV shows, I might add.

So please believe me when I say that "free energy" will never make anybody more free. Like anything else, it will just get more complicated, and all the things associated with it will just get more expensive. It will not get the jackboot of The Man off anybody's neck. It will just change a few behaviors, because we all want more and more and more, and are willing to pay more to get it.



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