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reply posted on 2-12-2007 @ 03:56 AM by jerico65
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I've always enjoyed Ben Steins articles. He's on the money and a big supporter of the troops.
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 12:54 PM by Alxandro
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C an a n y o n e tell me why the soldiers are the real s t a r s?
Anyone? Anyone?
..because soldiers have made it possible to allow Americans
... anyone? anyone?
...the opportunity and the right to
... anyone? anyone?
.... to criticize their government without the fear of getting
...anyone?
...getting thrown in jail.
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reply posted on 2-6-2008 @ 10:39 PM by toasted
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" to criticize their government without the fear of getting
...anyone?
...getting thrown in jail. "
!!!!!...DUDE...!!!!! wtf?
YOU"RE KIDDING? RIGHT?
Reality
reading material for you...;
Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq
The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War
ans nothing against ben stein, but more patriots here;
Patriots
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reply posted on 16-6-2008 @ 05:15 PM by FlyersFan
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I've said this before -
I'd like to see a Ron Paul/Ben Stein ticket.
That sounds funny ... but that's what I'd like.
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reply posted on 14-7-2008 @ 07:53 PM by Roper
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Thanks Dave for posting this. Also thanks Ben for the book.
You know my son can't get his college payed for because he was in the Reserves, even though he was in combat. Crazy!
Roper
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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:01 PM by no name needed
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Bueller.....Bueller......Bueller.
Sorry, you cant mention Ben Stein w/o expecting someone to do that!
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reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 11:52 PM by ChChKiwi
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Soldiers suck.
If there were no soldiers or if people refused to take up arms, then there would be a greater chance of there being no wars.
I have no respect for killers, no matter how 'righteous' their mission is.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 06:33 PM by jerico65
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Originally posted by ChChKiwi
Soldiers suck.
And I'm losing sleep over this.
Originally posted by ChChKiwi
If there were no soldiers or if people refused to take up arms, then there would be a greater chance of there being no wars.
That's a mighty naive outlook on life. It's been tried in the past, and it's failed, unfortunately.
Originally posted by ChChKiwi
I have no respect for killers, no matter how 'righteous' their mission is.
Whatever.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 07:16 PM by ChChKiwi
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Originally posted by jerico65
That's a mighty naive outlook on life. It's been tried in the past, and it's failed, unfortunately.
What's your point?
I suppose you think it's great that we've got to where we are because of people murdering others?
Yeah, I'll deal with it, I'll say that soldiers suck and more (not on here as there is a language filter) and yeah, it may be naive, but I'd rather
be naive and hopeful than support murderers or whatever you would prefer to call them.
What's wrong with hoping for no more wars anyway? Oh, so it's idealistic? It's unrealistic? Well, I suppose it's unrealistic as long as we have
people who want it to continue...Don't lose sleep though...wtf? Whatever.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 07:30 PM by mapsurfer_
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Hello, The solder should be treated with dignity, honor and respect. I am so proud of them for everything they have done... Now it is time to bring
them home. I can only hope we can come to a peaceful solution. I have faith that our current administration, and future administration and agree
that our foreign policy needs to be less intrusive. Perhaps Iraq and Iran can work together to preserve their own heritage. Democracy would be a
good thing for the middle east, but these countries need to come to a good peaceful solution.
War is not the solution, It's a no brainer, wouldn't you agree?
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 07:35 PM by jerico65
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Originally posted by ChChKiwi
What's your point?
I suppose you think it's great that we've got to where we are because of people murdering others?
Yeah, I'll deal with it, I'll say that soldiers suck and more (not on here as there is a language filter) and yeah, it may be naive, but I'd rather
be naive and hopeful than support murderers or whatever you would prefer to call them.
What's wrong with hoping for no more wars anyway? Oh, so it's idealistic? It's unrealistic? Well, I suppose it's unrealistic as long as we have
people who want it to continue...Don't lose sleep though...wtf? Whatever.
And what's your point with your original post? "Soldiers suck". Yep, whatever. Why don't you trot down to the local military base and make sure
that the troops there know your enlightened opinion of them and their friends. Let me know how that works out for you. (Here's a tip; tell them you
want your teeth in your hand, not your pocket.)
Hey, nothing wrong with hoping that there are no more wars. 99% of the guys in uniform agree with you.
And you don't murder people in wartime. You kill them. There is a difference.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 07:46 PM by ProfEmeritus
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Yeah, I'll deal with it, I'll say that soldiers suck and more (not on here as there is a language filter) and yeah, it may be naive, but I'd rather
be naive and hopeful than support murderers or whatever you would prefer to call them.
The problem with your philosophy is that dictators won't pay attention to your "suggestion". If we had no "soldiers" in the 1940's, those of us
that hadn't been exterminated, would be in concentration camps, and being guarded by German SOLDERS.
Soldiers are valiant men and women, who have defended their countries, and allowed pathetic clowns like you to say what they want, regardless of how
ignorant you are.
If there were no "bad"people in the world, there would be no need for soldiers. However, there are, and so soldiers are necessary.
Ben Stein is right. Ben is a true patriot.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 08:29 PM by ChChKiwi
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I still stand by my comment that they are murderers by any other name...calling them soldiers just obfuscates that, but then we know the military is
into obfuscation to keep it's purpose.
However, I suspect it is because of 'clowns' like you that there are still wars fought.
Shame on you.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 08:33 PM by jerico65
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And shame on you for not knowing the difference between a murderer and a soldier. Maybe when you grow up a tad you might figure this all out.
Kinda f**kin doubt it, tho.
Have a fine AFSOC day.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 08:52 PM by ChChKiwi
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Yeah, one is state-sanctioned, the other does it of their own volition. Grow up a tad? What was that you were saying to me, boy?
But then, I wouldn't expect you to understand the vagaries, seeing as you are so gung-ho and 'patriotic'., sorry, goddamn patriotic.
[edit on 24/9/08 by ChChKiwi]
[edit on 24/9/08 by ChChKiwi]
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 09:02 PM by jerico65
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Originally posted by ChChKiwi
Grow up a tad? What was that you were saying to me, boy?
But then, I wouldn't expect you to understand the vagaries, seeing as you are so gung-ho and 'patriotic'., sorry, goddamn patriotic.
Boy, huh? Well, you see a boy, you just go ahead and knock him down.
You're making it obvious that you're a boy that has no idea what it's like to be a soldier. You just spew whatever drivel you just happened to have
read about the military, just posing with the antiwar, antimilitary hate crowd that's oh, so trendy at this point in time.
So, why don't you grow up and read what some of the others have posted on this thread? Or do whatever you like. I'm still trying to figure out how
you can drive Mom's car with those clown-shoes on.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 09:10 PM by ProfEmeritus
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jericho,
Don't let him get to you. I just hit the ignore button on the left, and he's gone from sight. He's just looking to pick a fight. It takes a lot
for me to ignore someone, but this is one character that really deserves it. He/she has no interest in listening to anything anyone says, and just
wants to spew his hatred.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 09:20 PM by jerico65
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Well, if he's looking for a fight, I have no problem with it, tho it's not fair having a battle of wits with someone that's unarmed.
Thanks, but he's really not getting to me. I'm actually enjoying reading his ill-advised, infantile posts. I'm willing to bet he's probably 18
years old, lives at home and wears his sisters jeans (and thinks he looks hot in them, too!)
Sometimes, I do wonder why I even bother.
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reply posted on 24-9-2008 @ 10:57 PM by cmd18B
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Originally posted by Alxandro
C an a n y o n e tell me why the soldiers are the real s t a r s?
Anyone? Anyone?
..because soldiers have made it possible to allow Americans
... anyone? anyone?
...the opportunity and the right to
... anyone? anyone?
.... to criticize their government without the fear of getting
...anyone?
...getting thrown in jail.
Im not here to argue and I respect your opinion however soldiers are stars because they "VOLUNTEERED" to serve their country and to die for what
they believe in, especially with the way the world is now, Nobody is forced to join the military here in our country. You are way off your mark with
that statement. If you have an issue with our country being at war then thats fine, Im sure many have the same issue but support your ALL VOLUNTEER
MILITARY....
P.S PAT TILLMAN GAVE UP 4 MILLION DOLLARS TO SERVE HIS COUNTRY BECAUSE HE WAS COMPELLED TO DO SO. HE PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE....HE IS A STAR AS ARE
ALL OUR OUR MILITARY.
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