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Topic started on 13-11-2007 @ 12:45 AM by Karlhungis
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Biometric finger scans now required to get into Disney Parks
www.local6.com
 I think it's a step in the wrong direction," Civil Liberties Union spokesman George Crossley said. "I think it is a step toward collection of
personal information on people regardless of what Disney says." (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:45 AM by Karlhungis
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Do you view it as a violation of privacy? I don't really agree with it and I don't think that it is necessary for tracking tickets. It seems strange
and if you are into the whole "Big Brother" thing, it is an early step in what could be a frightening path.
www.local6.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:02 AM by TheHypnoToad
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Wow! The article says that Disney is just trying to keep track of who is using real tickets or something like that... sorry I don't remember
exactly. The old ADD kicked in for a second there... but how would the biometric system accomplish that?
Unless they scan everyone who buys tickets, and then scans them again when the tickets are used, maybe... I am just trying to wrap my brain around
the reason that they are giving.
If anyone gets the rationale behind this, please explain it to me. I am feeling a little slow this late at night. Sorry.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:08 AM by Karlhungis
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From the article:
"Disney officials said the scans help keep track of who is using legitimate tickets"
Maybe it is a control feature that when a fake ticket is put in, they get a fingerprint of who used it. Will they use it to press charges on them? I
guess it could be used to prosecute someone if say, they have used nothing but fake tickets over and over again.
I really don't know though. I am just guessing at this point.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:11 AM by scooler1
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This is not new.
They have been using this technology for years for annual ticket-holders. The just starting using it for all ticket-holders this year. The machine
does not take your fingerprints and it does not store info. It inprints the info on your ticket so no one else can use your ticket.
Read about it here.
Edit to fix link.
[edit on 13-11-2007 by scooler1]
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:16 AM by watch_the_rocks
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There is a lot of confusion about this, I've seen over the past year or so.
In no way does this thing record information about you or anything, but I still think it's a step in the wrong direction. Like the first step to
watching the masses 24/7 is to tell them the few cameras being installed are to watch for crime.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:16 AM by ChiKeyMonKey
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Guys this has been done before on ATS somewhere.
In Hong Kong (Yes there is a disney here and yes before you ask: it's crap!) if you have a year pass they ask you to give a finger! hee hee, or show
your ID card! as everyone has an ID card out here, which has your fingerprings on it anyway. I didn't have an issue with it.
But I can see it from your point of view and you don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry to know you went to Disneyland. The implications could be
huge!
*ATS member caught trying to prove Mickey Mouse is just some short bloke in a suit!*
MonKey
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:54 PM by Bushwacked
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This article is a year old this has been goin on for over a year.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:07 PM by kozmo
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Oh wow  What a shame! I was planning on taking the family to Disney this spring, but it looks like that won't happen now.
As far as I am concerned they can add better copy-protection and security to their tickets to avoid counterfeiting. They are NOT going to use my
personal biometric data for that. What's next? DNA sampling to ensure that I am a.) who I say I am on my credit card, b.) tall enough or healthy
enough to ride the ride of my choice, c.) am healthy enough to eat their crappy trans-fat loaded food? Nope! Sorry... this smacks of desensitization
to me. Get people used to giving up their personal biometric data for such "harmless" purposes of visiting a stupid rodent living in a fantasy
castle, then - BAM - you're giving it up for everything and being tracked. Um, NOPE!
"Oh looky honey... Look at the big, cute rodent in clothes... and his retarded dog - how cute! Now go give a sample of your DNA so you can get your
picture taken with him."
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:15 PM by Boondock78
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right or wrong in my thoughts, i will never(some unforseen circumstance like having to give a scan to get into the hospital to see my wife or
something aside), i mean NEVER press my fingers to a biometric scanner. my eyes will not be scanned.
i know all the stuff about they already have our info anyway via ss#'s and DL#'s and such but IMO, that is a whole lot different than bio scans.
also, the ss office and the bmv are about as a necessity as you can get....depending on where you live, you can get by without a DL but everyone needs
an SS.
not that i have planned to go to disney but now i know not to make plans to go there.
i have heard that stores down in the virgini's have some payment systems where you can attach your print to your checking account so when you pay a
bill you just hit your thumb print and while i think that is pretty cool, fast, easy and may be ideal for some, it is NOT the situation for me...
i can't(maybe i refuse to see) the benefits of this but the people at disney do NOT need to have my print(s), especially not my wife or childs.
i have already been printed. i have been printed in the occasions i was arrested and i have been printed when i got my ohio auto sales license.
my wife and child however have not been printed and i intend to keep it that way.
my wife is of course a grown woman and if she wants to bio scan her thumb to pay she can...
i let her know my concerns and with things like this, she tends to go with me on it...
friggin biometrics to go to disney...
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:36 PM by scooler1
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Wow, there sure are a lot of paranoid people here. What does anyone think will happen if they are storing this biometric info? Make a fake hand
modeled after yours, and do what with it?
Both my wife and I have been fingerprinted, you can't get professional license without it in our state. That info is saved somewhere, this biometric
info at Disney is not. We have been planning our Disney trip for almost a year for next spring and some conspiracy theory about biometric scans is
not going to deter me from taking my kids on a great vacation.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:39 PM by xstevenx
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I just wanted to say I've never seen this at the Disney park I frequent, which is Disneyland. I have an annual pass as well and they've never asked
for a finger print. I could see why this might help with people sneaking in. There is a trick where you could take a park hopper ticket and pass it
around a group of friends to get them all in for free if someone has an annual pass to go in and out with the ticket. But I think that problem could
be solved without having to take people's fingerprints... I think the only scary thing about Disneyland is the amount of cameras on you.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:48 PM by Boondock78
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well cool then.
have fun on your trip.
i have no specific CT about this. all i do know id i don't like it so, i won't be doing it.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 01:55 PM by djpaec
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Yeah I experienced the finger scanning back in June, when I went to epcot. Actually it kinda burns. And for the poster that said people could pass
around the park pass, that'd be kinda impossible with all the people and security they have at the gates.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 02:01 PM by anhinga
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...speculation that Walt was a Nazi/sympathizer:
www.cwfa.org...
This doesn't surprise me, the juggernaut that is all things Disney, from theme parkes, to films and toys -- it's waste, finite consumption at it's
worst.
Now, all the mindless Americans can truly enjoy their police state presence w/ a retina scan at a rollercoaster near you!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:48 PM by goosdawg
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Originally posted by anhinga
...speculation that Walt was a Nazi/sympathizer:
www.cwfa.org...

That web site's a "traditional family value's" snow job.
Grossly homophobic, I can't believe anyone would consider this a valid source for anything but far-right-wing propaganda.
It would be a real stretch to say this source equates Walt Disney to Hitler.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet they'd be all for everyone being forced to have their bio-metric data stored in a central data-base so they
could single out the gays to subject them to "re-education" camps.
Frankly, I'm appalled at your choice of supporting data!
Ack!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 09:53 PM by Beachcoma
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Originally posted by scooler1
Wow, there sure are a lot of paranoid people here. What does anyone think will happen if they are storing this biometric info? Make a fake hand
modeled after yours, and do what with it? 
What do you expect? This is ATS
On topic, I really don't see what the big deal is. It's not like Disney is chipping people.
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reply posted on 14-11-2007 @ 08:07 PM by dk3000
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Disney just lost income from me. It's okay because their parks are going down the tubes anyway. This is what happens when you hire Eisner!
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reply posted on 14-11-2007 @ 08:15 PM by antar
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I went to Disneyland in Ca. last year and they just stamped us with a glow in the dark stamp. I would like to know more about this because we planned
to go to Disney World next time... Do not like the bio metric idea.
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reply posted on 15-11-2007 @ 03:59 PM by djpaec
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Antar, everybody gets scanned. I only went for one day and was scanned.
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